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Eternal War, the best and worst of LOA II

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Eternal War, the best and worst of LOA II Reply:14| View:1942
This week kicked off another round of EW, the first round since the huge server merge. Faction rosters went from 4 pages of legions to over 17 pages of legions participating on each side. XServer chat was once again abuzz with talk of factions, of legions, of strategy and interest - but also of disgust, confusion, betrayal and unhappiness.
Never have I seen a game implement a wide scale PVP event so badly for a crowd that hungered for it. Setting aside all the normal (and justified) complaints of cash grabbing despicable behavior from the developers, lets focus on the things that can be fixed to salvage EW to make it the best it could be.

  • Allow guilds to be turned into Legions with the click of a button.
Why does the game split families up this way? This intstantly populates each faction with members having divided loyalties. No one can rely on their faction to be 100% focused on winning.
Why can't commander's invite across servers?
Why has the server merge broken so many cross-server functions and the devs have not fixed ANY of them? (Guild Expedition, Team Domination etc)?

  • Allow any officer of a Legion to choose Faction at the start of EW.
Our guild/Legion was kept in limbo for 24 hours this week because our previous commander was away on real life business. This bled off precious hours of prep/gather time as we all sat helplessly unable to do anything. I can only imagine what would happen if a commander retired from the game and a level 5 or 6 Legion would have to be disbanded just so the members could enter EW at all.

  • Fix the algorithm used to apply people and/or Legions into Factions on the first night.
We watched (and refreshed often) the first night as Wind, Water and Fire factions became populated. Due to the horrific random nature of this process, we wanted to see just how badly this bungled game mechanic would turn brother against sister, husband against wife.
Imagine our dismay to see on top of that putrid game mechanic, we noticed it wasn't even just bad seign, it wasn't even equal. One faction - leading in people, total BR, and total legions was gaining members over the others anyway! Senseless and stupid.

  • Find a way to make the title of Commander relevant, and therefore instill a sence of responsibility and leadership.
As of now, any yahoo with an ego and no common sense can be a commander. It dilutes the title and makes every faction member confused as to which people he/she should listen to and follow.

  • Implement better admin controls for Legion officers, and allow for the selection of Faction officers via vote.
During day 1 of faction formation, allow for a faction-based vote to elect Faction leaders (say 3-5 people). These people could then identify the plethora of alt accounts and spies ithin the faction and boot their sorry behinds.

  • Post better explanations of the joining process for people before EW starts, and maintian and post a clearer summary of the results after EW ends.
Common sense - no need to define this in more detail.

These are just a few suggestions. My guild is now resigned to the idea that the random faction feature is tearing us up. The only hope we have to funnel our guild members into a centralized Legion is to try to get lucky and add a few guildies per month (who get into the same faction as the legion by random luck). Gee great. Maybe in 6 months we will have all 24-30 slots filled with guild members.




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The merger ruined the whole game. I mean with a few hundred legions in just one faction, and so few strongholds a majority of people can't even claim the hourly resources gleaned from possessing a stronghold.

It's a joke to bother with dragon attacks since you are lucky to get 10 total dragon kills (really lucky). There are simply too many people with the mass merger and it needs to be cut at least in half. The time commitment for this EW is bad enough. The rewards were kind of lame, but now with a much smaller merit earning ability it's going to be even worse now. You did not consider so many things before doing this mass merger.
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  • ur not wrong!!! its some bull crap in the EW event and the rewards HAH  if u even get the hero medels witch is only for the winners, if u are on the losing side u get crap and no medels so all the time u put in playing this event and still lose what do u get ????   some baby prizes ....dont get medels for the Evo items that weaker players need. Alot more then the 1,2 , 3 and 4000m BR players that win the  dam wars same players each war win ..GAY   f uck'n GAY
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Post time 2017-9-28 22:55:54 | Show all posts
And send back HALF of the merged players to their homes, please...
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Edited by mk472009 at 2017-9-28 23:43

(1) You can't simply click a button to turn a guild into a legion. Legions have levels and member limit. You can't simply turn a guild a guild with 80+ (with 75 of them not logged in for months ) into a high level legion that can accommodate all the 80 members. Legions must be built from the ground up.

(2) Everybody will join the strongest faction if they are allowed to. That definitely won't work if everybody is allowed to pick a faction.

(3) Algorithm for putting players into whatever faction is probably not random although the developers (or fanboys) claimed it is since it is quite obvious that almost all EW seasons are lopsided in all the x-server groups. If these people insist it is random, then perhaps RNGesus is not random. Some people seemingly can find a way to stick to the strongest faction anyway... or they actually find a way to bride RNGesus.

(4) Commanders already have a role in this game. Only Commanders and Generals are able to use the strongest weapons. And if you are thinking about adding something to let the Commanders and Generals to boss their members around... forget about it. Nobody will listen to anybody except themselves in a GAME. Just that some VIP4+ the developers and fanboys called Commanders and Generals don't make them somebody above all the other VIP0 players. Go cry a river if they want to but nobody will listen to them. PERIOD.

(5) Don't worry about adding whatever features since the "Coming Soon"s will never come. If the developers are really smart they should just simply remove these "Coming Soon" nonsense. It is counter productive. It only gives all the players the feeling that this game is a lie, cheat, or scam like some smart players who keep crying "seeds" "seeds" "seeds" called it. Even the crappiest online games will show the public at least the names of the "coming soon" features in their game, plus some concept art or trailer. Keep putting "coming soon" but not even a name and description will only drive the not-so-wise potential players away since 99.9999999999999999% of the players are not-so-wise.
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  • Was good to read your suggestions...oh wait, you had none.
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  • "If the developers are really smart they should just simply remove these "Coming Soon" nonsense. It is counter productive. It only gives all the players the feeling that this game is a lie, cheat, or scam like some smart players who keep crying "seeds" "seeds" "seeds" called it."

    Isn't this a suggestion? Oh wait... maybe different people can see different things and they use different dictionary so they have different meaning of "suggestion"...

    And who said the General DISCUSSION is only for "suggestions"?
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  • And who said General DISCUSSION is only for trolling?
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Suggestion: In order to encourage winning more

In final rankings , add 15k score to winning faction, 5k to 2nd faction, and subtract 5k from loosing faction
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Ah yes the probs with EW are many i've thought quite a bit about it..... first let me say i love this mini game even more than the main game! Because you get to use your brain and plan your strategy. Unlike the main game of just clicking and people trying to be identical clones of each other smh. Where to start hmmm
1) Commanders chat box- I just posted a few hours ago that the players have been asking (for the last 3 EW's ) for a separate chat box for commanders including the general. They need a separate chat box to discuss strategy away from the main chat.
2) Dragons- OMG what isn't wrong w/ the dragons! 1st off the 3 classes of dragons should be dif merit and hardness to beat. Blk dragons say 2 merit each and even beginners can kill it gold dragons 3 merit and only moderate tech lvl say might 2 and above can kill it and Death dragon 5 merit and only players w/ tech might 3+ can kill it. Also have 4 dragons come out at a time and 3 at a time on elite. This will give the dragons a better chance to win as thats what all experienced players want! And will also allow for killing some dragons cuz everybody hates sitting around 'cuz they have that need to KILL! LOL Knowing that retaking the city after dragons win gives alot more merit than you get for killing dragons! Which brings us to the next problem w/ dragons.... the noobs or just those who do the opposite cuz they hate following orders. The ones that build towers and mines to kill dragons grrrrr I thought of 3 solutions to that: A) Give the dragons shields just like the players. Each class of dragon gets dif shield length blk lowest, gold middle and death highest and allow dragons to kill towers 1st! B) Have the game block the use of weapons until night battle C) Allow commanders to remove them for a specified amount of time like 15 mins, 1 hour, until night battle ect.
3) What path are we taking?- Omg another headache! As each player gets on the question gets asked over and over at least 100 times! LOL So why not add a feature that the general picks a order /path of 3 cities say drop dwn box style then that path gets put on each players page somewhere where its not in the way but they can still see it. Then its up to the player to follow that path or not.
4) Leadership- Should be 1 captain general -> 2 major generals and 2 lieutenant générals. Picked by a star rank and br. A star is given for every EW they've been in then the 5 highest br in order for above. The capt gen makes the final decissions and posts the orders via drop dwn box picks mentioned above. The lieut's transfer messages from commanders to major and visa versa Majors transmit messages from lieut's to captain and visa versa. Commanders transfer messages from Lieuts to players in their legions.
5) Faction picking- The system in place is horrible! 1st off i agree w/ the original poster any player who wants to play in your guild should be automatically added to their guilds legion! BUT I have had to kick guildies for not donating cuz they think because they're guildies they can't get kicked so they don't donate! Once kicked they should not roll for a new faction because that would cause disgruntled players to fight against their own guildies and break up guilds! So best to let them stay in same faction just apply to other legions in the same faction. When leaving a legion there shouldn't be a 12 hour cool dwn cuz theres not enough time then to join w/ your legion because people live in so many time zones and get on at dif times! Legions w/ ghosts in them (people who haven't played in over a month) wouldn't have that problem if the whole game took people who haven't played in a month off the boards all the boards including arena, domination guild membership legions ect! Don't close their accounts but put them on pause and off the boards! Then on faction picking have it coded so theres no more than 1 -5 active player differance! Same w/ br make sure br's in each faction are close!
I'm tired I'll write more ideas tom goodnight for now
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Edited by waryr1 at 2017-10-1 05:39

Ok other ideas:
1) Add mythic character evolve seals to store
2) The game is absolutely boring during the day why? Why can't the battle be from like 2pm tp 10pm? And no long cool dwns during the day 2 hours is dumb 1 side takes them all then 2 hours later the other 1 takes them back all day boring! Cd shouldn't be more than 15 mins so people don't just sit around w/ their thumbs up their butts waiting!
3) Replace suicide bombers w/ catapults (you'll see why in next idea) And add rebuild tools that you need tech to improve like a mason to rebuild walls (if it takes rams 300 hits to tear dwn a wall it would take 300 swipes to rebuild the wall), a carpenter to rebuilt barracks and elite and mechanic to rebuild seals.
4) This ones a real game changer but was asking myself what can be added for the lil guys and noobs to stay interested? cuz in the beginning they just get discouraged cuz all they do is die and go to temple.... So only good idea i came up w/ was have 3 lvls this lvl midevil era next lvl current era high lvl space battles. That would also give more maps and territory and solve the problem of not everyone get a city for resources since the merge! I know we went 2 days w/out any cities or resources! Move the suicide bomber to current era also have drones, nukes, IEDs ect 3rd lvl all space war stuff you get the idea and all the build tech for all 3 lvls. That way noobs and low lvl players will be playing w/ people at same lvl as them! How to advance to next lvl i don't know maybe star rating I talked about above or star and battle rating or tech lvl what do you guys think? Either way think of the money the devs would make! Its win win for everyone!
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@above
1) You're just being greedy here, aren't you?
2) Not everyone has the same lavish lifestyle as you to stay on 24/7.
3) Maybe for the general only, even then it still unbalances eternal war in terms of weaponry.
4) The game takes place in a fantasy medieval setting.
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  • Yeah its so greedy trying to figure out out to help other people especially the lil guys your probably just upset cuz your one of the ones that build towers to kill dragons!
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  • Figure out how^^^ not out out!
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1 . Make  legions level upgrade tech  matter  more , atm even with level 8  atk  def  hp  and rest . It  dont make a difference  only the weapon does .

2 Give general  chat to go like in dungeon sweeper across screen .

3. If  bracket is this  big , then make  bonus for  legion level to  resource  production

4. an Idea could be  based on Legion level to upgrade  reinforce their  strongholds say  auto  defences like towers  barracks  Higher BR  more points   build walls and such

5. remove individual reward  , place legion for rewards   and faction , even a low player can get  stuff out it .
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this is what kinda bull crap it is in the EW ,
look at thge BR on wind and then on the fire .....

wind - 5659M - 14 plp
and
fire - 911  - 11 plp

some BR gap in there dont u think people
how fair is that ....



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