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Post time 2017-11-20 16:01:21 | Show all posts |Read mode
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there is issue with earth rune stone , its particular skill doesnt work at least one part of it Rock guard skill says that basic attack are guarradntied to hit but i get keep dodged so if dev would take a look at that would be nice otherwise it would a be a basicly scam to put that and claiming it does something that doesnt
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Post time 2017-11-20 23:02:28 | Show all posts
On a side note, these basic attack skills will work with Eureka
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  • So Eureka has no normal skill but 3 passives?
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    2017-11-20 23:15  Reply
  • its not any longer basic attack if its modified so they should take a look at that
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    2017-11-20 23:39  Reply
  • yes it is. "modified basic attack" is not the same as "basic attack replaced by normal skill".
    if i understand correctly, eureka has no normal skill, so she will use basic attack every round.
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    2017-11-20 23:45  Reply
  • i just wonder if the modifier will be really applied each round or only in rounds a normal skill would usually trigger.
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    2017-11-20 23:58  Reply
  • so basicly they are making silence proofed well there we go that was glitch that was needed so make some pets useless , cant dev just to by one logic all the time or did greed do large ammount of dmg to their brain
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    2017-11-21 00:00  Reply
  • lol relax. you are right about a lot, but in this case the game mechanic is just fine ;)
    some heroes fight with normal skill only, and maybe eureka is the first to fight with basic attack only.
    its up to players to find out best rune skill strategy with various team formation.
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    2017-11-21 00:06  Reply
  • ugh if its modified by site of hit and by % od dmg its not normal attack anymore its a spell , if you are trying to convie me its a normal attack that 2nd skill it is not dont even bother but still they should make that on her as on every other arty hero so she doesnt benefit from those passive if they decided to roll with that . I dont care but at least they should be consistant
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    2017-11-21 00:19  Reply
  • of course its still a basic attack. im not trying to convince you. i have explained. and at least 3 other players as well. you didnt even know how quench or rock guard skills work. they are consistent. thanks for sharing your opinion how the devs should design artifact hero skills.
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    2017-11-21 00:31  Reply
  • if those will be spells of euraka they will not be consistant cause they will allow her to benefit from those runestones while other old heroes will not be able so they are not consistant
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    2017-11-21 00:48  Reply
  • ok in that one point they would not be consistent, but i dont see why that would be a problem. it makes team strategy even more interesting. i dont even like that they are consistent with arty heroes rage red immunity for example.
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Post time 2017-11-20 17:06:07 | Show all posts
Hello kovacicam

Basic skill means the hero basic attack (moving to the enemies and hitting not with an ability but with his sword for example). Maybe you mistranslated as "your basic ability is guaranteed to hit". The abilities of the hero can still miss it's just the basic hit (attack not ability) that will never miss.

In case you are sure that it's the basic attack that has missed please give me a screenshot of it to report it to the devs with your IGN and Server.

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  • Isolde skill replace basic attack so yeah it does miss if that is how its working then basicly its worthless and i mean only on that one skill that replace her basic attack ...
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    2017-11-20 17:50  Reply
  • https://prnt.sc/hcs4w4 runestone and
    https://prnt.sc/hcs6jj and miss on Basic attack that is replaced by Prelude of ice
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    2017-11-20 18:19  Reply
  • It does replace the basic attack so of course this bonus from the earth stone does not apply anymore. It's a normal attack now. The same with Quench from the fire stone, it will not increase the dmg of the normal skill by 75%.
    But Quench might also be something to have on Eureka cause she will hit with her basic attack each round.
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    2017-11-22 04:04  Reply
  • hiiiro I told this to him 2 days ago but he doesn't understand what basic attack replacement is and he thinks only first skill what makes the rune stone important when clearly if you know how to build teams that is wrong.
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Post time 2017-11-20 17:07:43 | Show all posts
Hmm, and what if the basic atk got swapped by a skill? Like with Pam?
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  • Then it's useless ...
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    2017-11-20 17:11  Reply
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    Hello again,

    First things first, let's see if the OP misread the skill or if it has been noticed for basic attacks. Once we clear this out we can check for Pamela's and other abilities that replace basic attacks.

    Thank you
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Hello again,

From what I see from your screenshot https://prnt.sc/hcs4w4%20and%20https://prnt.sc/hcs6jj , I see that Pamela is hitting with her attack and she did earth damage (rune dmg) 3.429.748 and 8.577.365. The icon you see before these numbers proove that it's earth damage (obviously from Pamela's attack).

We always prefer videos for such cases because they are better analyzed , but from the screenshot I see some dodge / blocks which are from other sources (don't know which sources), so I guess you misread the Rock Guard skill and you were thinking that your Pamela (or squad) will not miss at all or you thought that other abilities will not miss either.

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  • listen here you see 4 dead champs on my screen and 1 casting is Isolde and in other screen shot you see Quart(earth) runestone that is not working as it is supposed you . I really don't get how you think pamela is attack when DODGE and puncture(pasive from artifact weapon) is procing over their head think they are one attackig , am sorry but what the heck are you trying to twist here? report that do devs or go resign i dont care but dont make me question myself cause i know what i saw and you wanna video ? Go test it yourself then cause you obviously didn't do that when it was supposed to
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  • Ulothar, the screenshot is from League of Angels 2. Have you played that game? Your team is on the left side. Enemy team is on the right side. You can also see your team member icons on the bottom of the battle screen.
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Quench is confirmed not to work for heroes such as pamela or artifact heroes,
because their basic attack is Replaced meaning, it does not exist, and casts the normal skill every round

I'd assume the same thing for earth runestone
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Edited by dmoc2006 at 2017-11-20 21:56

ok since you clearly need to understand how quartz first skill works first of all for even to work at all you need a basic attack and since you point at Isolde. Once you can read her second skill her basic attack is no longer there which makes that skill invalid. So before you rant on quartz not working you need to read before reporting.
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  • its not said that she will cast prelude all the time its said "replace" so that is her basic attack
    but if we go by your logic you wanna say that both fire and earth runestone are worthless to those type of champs wich make their existance irrelavant and are all artyfact heroes and pamela so full top team champs adorable
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  • they are not completely worthless since you don't obviously test teams as i do you don't see all the advantages of runestone so go test runestone builds then you can come back and talk ok
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  • and also it only makes the first skill useless not the entire runestone. If you think just the first skill of the runestone is what makes the runestone useful your a bigger fool than I thought.
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Basic Attack and Normal Skill is not the same.
If your Basic Attack gets replaced by a Normal Skill, no effects that refer to the Basic Attack will be triggered.

Thats how it works. Quench and Rock Guard are designed for heroes that dont use a Normal Skill every round.
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Post time 2017-11-21 16:07:29 | Show all posts
Hello again

I am not trying to twist anything, I am just trying to help you (and all others who post here), if it bothers you when someone is trying to help you then I do not understand why you ask questsion if not to be helped. My job is not to report to the devs blindly whatever players ask and definately my job isn't to think of all players being super experienced and knowledgable of this game, I do not personally know you, nor do I know how you did test (or anyone else for that matter) the issues you are reporting. I would never waste the limited time of the devs by reporting something without first checking myself if it is worth reporting, because if I do so, then another issue that is important will be delayed for no reason.

After saying that, and answering to the topic's question. Basic attacks are the normal hits a hero does when moving to the enemy team and attack with his sword (for example). Now when a skill replaces the basic attack it means that instead of using basic attack he use the skill. In this case the skill does not become basic attack, it's just that basic attack does not apply anymore.

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Ulothar... Sometimes you give good quality reply, but sometimes you really talk crazy things and become very aggressive.
First, you gave the correct answer, but later in post #4 you made a mistake.
You look at the screenshot and you see Pamela attack with earth runestone.
That is not true.
You can clearly see ISOLDE attack with earth runestone, and Pamela is just the target.

That is why OP thinks you wanted to twist something. What you write just does not make any sense.
But before that you gave good advice, so I really dont understand you.

The problem was already solved, so there is no need to attack the OP due to a confusion that you caused yourself.
Remember diplomacy, and just keep in mind that you are not immune to making mistakes.
Its really absurd how much effort you put in talking down to players instead of just taking the time to check the facts properly.
The best way to save dev's limited time is to have competent mods.
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