North America Forum

 Forgot password?
 立即注册
Search

We are working to make our Terms of Service agreement easier to read in order to provide you with better services while protecting your personal data. We hope you can spare a few minutes to read the recently updated User Terms of Service. User Terms of Service Privacy Policy
View: 754| Reply: 8

Hit vs Critical

[Copy link]

9

Threads

26

Posts

0

Credits

User

Rank: 1

Credits
0
nickname_71768508
User
Posts:26
Joined 2018-7-2
Last Visited 2019-07-17
Post time 2019-3-13 13:19:47 | Show all posts |Read mode
Hit vs Critical Reply:8| View:754
I am curious about something.  Are critical hits a different entity entirely from the hit/Dodge factor.  If my Dodge was super high but my resil was really low, would someone still be able to land endless criticals if their hit was really low but had an awesome critical.
Translate

 nickname_71768508 Last edit in 2019-3-13 13:19:47

 Support

Report
Default Signature
Reply

Use magic Report

9

Threads

26

Posts

0

Credits

User

Rank: 1

Credits
0
nickname_71768508
User
Posts:26
Joined 2018-7-2
Last Visited 2019-07-17
 Author| Post time 2019-3-17 02:51:15 | Show all posts
Guess I asked a dumb question......or is everyone else just waiting for someone who knows more to give an answer
Translate
Floor reply (0)

 nickname_71768508 Last edit in 2019-3-17 02:51:15

 Support

Report
Default Signature
Reply Support Not support

Use magic Report

2

Threads

498

Posts

0

Credits

User

Rank: 1

Credits
0
ninjastyle
User
Posts:498
Joined 2018-4-6
Last Visited 2019-03-19
Post time 2019-3-17 05:36:20 | Show all posts
Edited by ninjastyle at 2019-3-16 22:37

Dear Player,

My apologies for having missed your post. The critical stat requires an attack to hit the player in order to work. This means that someone with a really high critical stat will not hit the enemy more than he would if he had lower critical stat. The Critical stat merely dictates how many of your normal hits will deal the additional critical damage but it cannot alter the instances of other stats.

However, as Wulf's special stat guide explains, both blocked attacks and elemental hits can be criticals. However a dodged attack negates all damage so in that case the critical stat simply does not have a chance to activate.

Regards
NinjaStyle
Translate
Floor reply (0)

 ninjastyle Last edit in 2019-3-17 05:36:20

 Support

Report
Reply Support Not support

Use magic Report

9

Threads

26

Posts

0

Credits

User

Rank: 1

Credits
0
nickname_71768508
User
Posts:26
Joined 2018-7-2
Last Visited 2019-07-17
 Author| Post time 2019-3-19 00:29:43 | Show all posts
Edited by guest71768508 at 2019-3-19 00:36

That is my understanding of how it works as well.  Into the follow up question.  What relevance do the Rare Stats have on this, if any?  And if they do not, how are some of these massive BR Gap wins occuring.  Time and again, in my own server, I have see the results of 2 in my guild going at it.  On 35B defeating easily the one at 50B.  The one at 50B's special stats say that the one at 35 should not be able to even land a hit, let alone a critical, but the fight is over in 4 secs.  Trinity Emblems are not a factor.  TDmg+/- is the only visible advantage the 35B fighter has, but again, the one at 50B has a 500k to 1M point advantage in all special stats......
Translate
Floor reply (0)

 nickname_71768508 Last edit in 2019-3-19 00:29:43

 Support

Report
Default Signature
Reply Support Not support

Use magic Report

13

Threads

46

Posts

0

Credits

User

Rank: 1

Credits
0
i_caesar_i
User
Posts:46
Joined 2018-5-27
Last Visited 2020-02-04
Post time 2019-3-19 01:25:36 | Show all posts
Edited by i_caesar_i at 2019-3-19 01:27

sir.
special stats are only trigger chances..
having way "higher" specials than opponent has, does not mean you will hit everyone  by "crit" ALL THE TIME..
it just means that you have "higher" chances of triggering this or that effect

kindly reminder.. crit vs resil - you need it to trigger hit and benefit out of CD rare stat
in all other occasions (in 95% of the cases) - you need hit/dodge - to successfully use your ed/skill/td/holy.
with regards of your question.. how come 35b player kills 50b player
CD - boost crit damage, when crit triggered (when your crit win opponents resil)
ED - boost DMG in general - also effects the CD if it was triggered with crit.
Skill DMG - boost your skill DMG - including all previous effects (crit as well if triggered)
TD = boost all of 3 from above
Holy = boost all of 4 from above. (meantime it is really hard to measure the difference... but after having 50+% you will mention that)
so ... this is from what most of your dmg is calculated...you can mock up some kind of "formula" to calculate it. it will not be 100% same as the real formula.. but at least you will have an understanding of all aspects...
which will help you to understand the deeps of this annoying pvp
And then, just play with the stats in this formula, this way you will have better understanding what you need to work on.
and remember:
specials = just triggers... that is it.. so don't be soooo surprized to see people with 5M crit/resil. losing in one shot fight to someone with 3m crit/resil



Translate
Floor reply (0)

 i_caesar_i Last edit in 2019-3-19 01:25:36

 Support

Report
Default Signature
Reply Support Not support

Use magic Report

5

Threads

16

Posts

0

Credits

User

Rank: 1

Credits
0
zpl
User
Posts:16
Joined 2018-9-19
Last Visited 2019-04-30
Post time 2019-3-19 11:23:16 | Show all posts
I believe that you need to "Hit" first before you can "Crit"

In my experience, event if you have dodge twice as much as opponent hit, they would still hit you more than half of the time
Translate
Floor reply (0)

 zpl Last edit in 2019-3-19 11:23:16

 Support

Report
Default Signature
Reply Support Not support

Use magic Report

9

Threads

26

Posts

0

Credits

User

Rank: 1

Credits
0
nickname_71768508
User
Posts:26
Joined 2018-7-2
Last Visited 2019-07-17
 Author| Post time 2019-3-19 22:59:01 | Show all posts
Truly then, any import that special stats had is gone, and rare stats rule LoD
Translate
Floor reply (0)

 nickname_71768508 Last edit in 2019-3-19 22:59:01

 Support

Report
Default Signature
Reply Support Not support

Use magic Report

2

Threads

3

Posts

0

Credits

User

Rank: 1

Credits
0
dumie28
User
Posts:3
Joined 2018-1-13
Last Visited 2019-04-11
Post time 2019-3-20 22:30:50 | Show all posts
Hi,
First of all i would like to point that specials formula is based on ratio, it is irrelevant to compare attacker's hit with defender's dodge as total value (500k to 1m difference, like it has been mentioned above). As an example, 1m hit vs 2m dodge wont have same dodge chance as 5m hit vs 6m dodge. More than that, as you can find in Wulf's guide, dodge and block chance is calculated together as a whole, each with its own ratio.When you compare rares, same rares gap will act the same way, 1000ed vs 1200dr or 2000ed vs 2200dr for example.
Translate
Floor reply (0)

 dumie28 Last edit in 2019-3-20 22:30:50

 Support

Report
Default Signature
Reply Support Not support

Use magic Report

5

Threads

16

Posts

0

Credits

User

Rank: 1

Credits
0
zpl
User
Posts:16
Joined 2018-9-19
Last Visited 2019-04-30
Post time 2019-3-21 20:58:41 | Show all posts
afaik, twilight set can give you critical chance regardless of crit/resil ratio. And in pvp there is a lot of other factors other than visible stat. Ie. Mount divinity (white mane could give you more than 50% (multiplication not value) to cd/cdr), skill talent, etc

There is a time when my opponent barely give me any damage until he use ultimate then boom. I died instantly. I'm not sure what happened
Translate
Floor reply (0)

 zpl Last edit in 2019-3-21 20:58:41

 Support

Report
Default Signature
Reply Support Not support

Use magic Report

You have to log in before you can reply Login | Register Now

Points Rules

小黑屋|community.gtarcade.com

2021-1-23 00:46 GMT+8 , Processed in 0.061904 second(s), 49 queries .

Powered by Discuz! X3.2

© 2001-2013 Comsenz Inc.

To Top Return to the list