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Post time 2020-1-18 16:37:08 | Show all posts |Read mode
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Playing a game like this can be damn hard, near impossible if you are a newish player or one that is not a person spending a lot of money on the game. I do not mind that people spend a lot of money on the game, but when some of these whales get so dominant that just having 1 in the kingdom will ruin the fun for the 6-700 other players, I start to question where the logic is with that.

We need to introdue some sort of bashlimits to limit how low these whales can attack. Granted if someone attacks you, you should be able to attack back no matter what, but when I see 1,6 billion power players hit Castle 14-20 players, I really fear for the future of the game.

Really start looking into limiting the total domination a whale have.

Some suggestions:

hard code a limit to what a 1b player cant attack. Maybe anyone under level 24.

Second: Make any player below a bashlimit not die but automatically retreat and suffer no losses. All resources can be stolen as pr normal, but atleast your army does not die.

Third: Make it somewhat more costly to attack lower ranking players by removing merit points. Want to attack someone level 15 when you are level 25. Lose 5% of your merit points.


I just feel we are heading into a direction where there are some players that are completely unattackable and causes nothing but grief for other players, making them leave the game in large numbers.

Thanks for your time!
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Post time 2020-2-2 19:05:58 | Show all posts
Dear Ladies/Lords,

What Xeno suggested is correct, but requires discipline and teamplay, cohesion and a lot of planning. It's a steep learning curve but the rewards are worth it on the long run.

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What hell you talking about???? Rally.... Dragon... Pink unicorns...
Rally whale? Come on they have t2 army and whale have t4... They won't even get report...

Keep your resources low... enough that you can protect...
Shelter troops and lord...
Your alliance need to do bank... one account that is always bubbled and where you all gonna send extra resources...
Kick out from alliances all players that constantly losing troops and rss
And if you wanna rally whale... have 5-6 players with t4...
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  • agree totally, your 2nd last sentence is one of the most important even if a lot of People dont want to hear it. Those guys who Always get catched without truce or protected and constantly loose soldiers and ressources act like a bait for hunter
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I think one of the main issues is that even a 400mil player is untouchable almost when he comes to mess with a new kingdom.  Our kingdom had a 400mil player come in, and we have many of our own players over 400mil as well, but they couldnt do anything to defend the kingdom.

Problem is with 3mil t4 troops in a castle, you have to rally against it to attack.  Anytime to try to rally, they just warp away.  I think the best change they can do is that with fervor on (and make it last longer), a player cannot transfer away or bubble.  This allows the kingdom a chance to fight back.

Otherwise the whale just attacks all the non t4 players, runs, runs, runs, and bubbles.  Making it impossible to deal with them.
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@abx3y8pmiije9oz - thank you for your suggestion. I just want to confirm, have you submitted a ticket for this in the the support ticket system as a suggestion? If not, what is your in-game name and kingdom #?
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Any n00b Friendly Kingdoms?
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Hi mywayitisthnx,

Even a higher ranked player can be taken out by multiple rallies at the same time (before the fervor ends), thus giving no escape. This however, needs coordination between different alliances. As you mentioned your kingdom already has equally matched players, they must come up with a suitable battle plan.
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drogon, I think he's asking how you intend to successfully hit them with a rally when they can just use a random or precise transfer to move far away from the rallying point, and avoid it again and again until the fervor runs out.  I believe he is suggesting to not allow the use of any transfer while under fervor.

The other option would be to allow the person rallying (attacking) to transfer while still rallying and not lose the rally.  This would allow them to follow the other player around.  I think the first option is better though.
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Hello tmeh.gm,

If a defender ports when a rally starts marching, the rally will automatically hit instantly. Hence, there are limitations even for defender to escape rallies. Thus, the need for multiple timed rallies to lock down a defender. It is difficult, but not impossible to attack even a higher ranked invader.
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What if he ports before the rally starts marching (which is a minimum 5 entire minutes)? Then he's across the map and you can't chase him down anymore without start a new rally, and another 5m for him to run.  It becomes a battle of exhausting his transfers, which of course never ends against a whale.

Do you have any tips on how to deal with this situation? Maybe that would be great information for everyone to read Thanks for taking the time to reply btw.
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Hi Tmeh ,
Chasing down someone significantly higher can definitely be challenging. If you can't 1v1 them your options are fairly limited. You can always make a fake rally to track them but that like I mentioned, that relies upon someone capable of 1v1'ing them. To get your rally to hit, the most reliant way is rally speedups. These are fairly costly, (good tip here is have a set person and have the alliance help them get these).
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They are not untouchable, it is all about the dragons, but you must work together to take them on, with the new dragons also lowerering their attack, they are as vulnerable as ever
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