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Persian Cat vs. Armoured ele, rhino and lizard

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Post time 2016-4-19 23:07:03 | Show all posts |Read mode
Persian Cat vs. Armoured ele, rhino and lizard Reply:12| View:605
Am i missing something or aren't the armoured ele, rhino, phoenix and lizard far better than the persian cat (as they have stackable skills)? As all i'm seeing is people are aiming trying to colect persian cat when those other 3 options are cheaper as well as far superior to the cat

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Post time 2016-4-19 23:49:25 | Show all posts
if you calculate all those mounts you have mention(without persian cat ) it could beat persian cat
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Post time 2016-4-19 23:50:14 | Show all posts
* armored rhino , amored elephant and lizard vs persian cat *
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 Author| Post time 2016-4-20 00:01:44 | Show all posts
Edited by warlord93 at 2016-4-20 00:07

I'm on about individually, if u had to chose either 1 of those they'll all better than the Persian cat

how can u say the persian cat is better? (yes round 1 the stat % increase is higher) but after the stacks on either the ele, rhino, lizard or phoenix would greatly over power the persian cat

so would it not be better to have 3 mounts from either rhini, ele, lizard or phoenix and not bother with cat at all

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Post time 2016-4-20 00:04:59 | Show all posts
Calculations don't work.

Some of those mounts are broken.

Last time I checked (near start of this year), it seemed like Elephant's ATK buff doesn't even work. Rhino's ATK buff doesn't seem to add up, somehow Smouldering Steed and Kirin's ATK buff are both far superior to those.
I didn't have Phoenix and Cat at the time to test those, and Lizard is new.

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Post time 2016-4-20 00:05:37 | Show all posts
You do realize that Persian cat has a higher base glamour than any of the 3 you mentioned. Meaning the cat will give you higher stat bonus as you upgrade it than any of the 3.

Atk and Def bonus can go as high as 15% at upgrade 27. Hit rating is about 19% but not too sure about this. How Hit Rating percentage is not the same as Base Hit percentage increase. Meaning it works like Chaos ring when it proc all your party can Hit targets irregardless of the targets Dodge.

So yeah, Parsian Cat is way better by a long shot being its also a Celestial Mount compare to the 3 which is Ruby
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  • u do realise the lizard has 15% atk, and 7% crit and hit, which stacks 3 times.... the persian cat maxes at 20% atk and def and 19% hit rating (and no stacks) so how do u see the persian cat as better
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    2016-4-20 00:10  Reply
  • base glamor also adds very little, and the colour of the mount means nothing
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  • Base glamour adds quite a lot IMHO. Cat has 2x higher than any of them.

    Also Hit rating can spell a win or lose in a Battle.

    Your main might be high in Hit, but does your other party has?
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  • clothings and mounts base stats means very little after you have 1m br, the br they give us barely 5 digits, that is like 1%.  When talking about mounts, it is all about the skill they have and what percentage they give.
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Post time 2016-4-20 00:54:51 | Show all posts
2016, people still aint know the difference between hit and hit rating, and why kitty is better than most mounts
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  • yes i understand hit rating, but also look at it this way lizard after round gives 21% hit increase... which would give me near 80k hit (would hit upto 90k dodge) on main.... how many people other than the real top players have 85k   dodge on main? as most of us aren't looking to compete with those zeals and busty's out there........ therefore wouldn't the higher attack bonus be more useful?
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  • im new and other games have a different meaning for rating vs the stat itself. so whats the difference on this game?
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    2016-4-20 01:03  Reply
  • hit just takes adds on to ur hit so e.g my hit is 65k add 21% hit = 79k (ish), whereas hit rating if u had 100% hit rating (like with hellish wolf) you have 100% chance to hit every turn. (there is some formula to work out in relation to ur hit and enemies dodge the likiehood of u hitting is) will give u a % chance of hitting, with Persian cats hit rating it gives an automatic chance of hitting and adds onto the chance of u hitting (derived from formula).... hence why people with low hit can hit people with far greater dodge
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  • No one can tell what "Hit Rating" is since we never know the numbers. Personally I believe it's just "Hit" said in another inconsistent way like this game does so much.
    And concerning Hellish Wolf's 100% Hit there's also no way to tell what caused it without knowing how the skill was actually programmed. Might as well be a bad conversion of the HP for instance.
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  • Actually, I tested it recently. I conclude that Hit Rating and Hit are the same thing. I'll post the results soon.
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  • Hellish wolf still has 100% hit?? wasn't it nerfed?
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    2016-4-20 11:11  Reply
  • wolf was nerfed.
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 Author| Post time 2016-4-20 01:06:38 | Show all posts
if some could also explain to me how the initial, joint and finishing mount skills work that may be able to help explain how to chose those mount skills.... as is there a % chance to trigger each corresponding skill (as with main) or do they all trigger every round?

ps. I would attempt to find this out myself but I tend to lag to hard when watching fights it tends to miss a lot of actions out
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  • Got pm'd this...... Bound mount skills will be triggered when the character triggers the corresponding skills (based on the skill's trigger rate).
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you could write a ticket and let the admins answer it, as i see so far none of the adm or mods are answering your post, and if they do pls post it here so all of us will be able to tell which one is better
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Post time 2016-4-20 01:46:51 | Show all posts
Dear Player, newer mounts have their bonuses than the older ones, but the persian cat is better for different situations, all the mounts can be used for different combination of boost stats that you'd like to have thus all all special some are outdated and stronger version is made thus the older mounts get evolutions.
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