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Post time 2016-4-29 11:07:33 | Show all posts |Read mode
Still think Midas is bad? Reply:15| View:3685


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Flora can't heal?  Athena shield is useless?  Lydia is weak?

FA, running recommended Midas team and is the first and only one on s1 to clear elite 13-7.  My Celestial team gets destroyed by the boss first aoe, only my thera/liz survive with 20% hp left, no idea how tempest fair, but obviously not any better since none have cleared it either, with similar BR mind you.

Aphro died, however that actually probably helped him/her clear it, due to the fact that flora can't heal the whole party, less target to heal means flora can actually keep them alive, athen aoe shield + damage buff + her 2nd skill that reduce damage ensure she survive and keep her whole party alive long enough for the dps class to kill the boss.  Hopefully this will either change people opinion and have a more open mind, or motivate others that the faction they chose isn't so bad after all.  Just have patience and learn.

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Post time 2016-4-30 15:45:39 | Show all posts
Okay Midas definetly has its flaws as a kingdom and (I know they say in CN servers Midas has its problems) based on my experience.   yo

1 - Tempest WILL have chances to do more dmg in WB.  Reason? = Lucas revive that's what makes him special =P

2 - Vs celestial teams it is harder.  Why? = Midas must position themselves in a way so they aren't just whacking a liz / huxley with a team formation that just feeds them rage without being able to finish them.  (unfortunately it's harder to control in x server but pvp it's totally controllable albeit annoying having to test so many formations when Celestial can move 1 - 2 units sometimes)

3 -  Flora's not weak but more "situationally" strong / weak as she definetly cannot keep up vs a huxley's raw damage but if you make her tanky enough and are able take out a huxley then she becomes a godlike healing machine.  

Correct me if I'm wrong as well when Liz ults she gives herself the rage buff as well.  Lategame I can see this being a pretty big advantage as a celestial team can go ulting left and right based on my above post.
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Edited by iremediabil at 2016-4-30 09:41

And because Midas can kill a few more elites and some abyss bosses,we can call it balance ?
How about X-server (both, mining and flags)? Domination? Arena? and future   features like X-server exped. and clash of guilds ? All  PvP based . PvP is  the ultimate goal , the rest are just means of achieving that goal.

And world boss.. players with 2.2 mil br (tempest ) , dealing more damage/entrance  than players with 4.2 mil br(midas ) ? Augments 5,5, 6   vs 8,8,9  etc? That just happened tonight ,it's a fact.  And btw, Tempest has it's PvP perks  too.

Not saying that Midas can't  improve but why should it improve a lot more than others to be able to compete?
Also not doubting  that Midas will get better at a later stage of the game but for now , it just  doesn't look balanced.
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  • in my server a 5mil Celestial get rekt by a 3m7 Midas in World Boss ...
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    2016-4-30 10:14  Reply
  • LOL thats because of diamond spam for respawn LOL
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    2016-4-30 10:55  Reply
  • why you even care to answer this typo... he is smart enough to know that i asume..
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    2016-4-30 10:58  Reply
  • Reply eliza maria : he just used 1-2 respawn, simply at the third world boss Midas has great advantage if u know how to build your team )
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    2016-4-30 10:59  Reply
  • Xserver?  What do you get after you get r3 diamond reward?  With little helper you can just afk xserver and never run out of honor due to the limit purchase per day.  Domination?  Arena?  Those are for the top 10 anyways, you'll never make it past the first 2 rounds if you don't cash what difference does that make.  On my server, the final 4 are usually 2 celestial, and 1 tempest and 1 midas, sometimes 2 tempest, and other times 2 midas, the only reason there's always 2 celestial is one is way stronger than everyone else on the server.  How is pvp the ultimate goal and everything else just a means of achieving that goal, I think you got that backwards, you get more resources pve, to get geared, in order to be competitive for pvp.
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Post time 2016-4-30 06:57:31 | Show all posts
actually the first one in the arena in my server is using midas and the third too ...
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Post time 2016-4-29 21:34:36 | Show all posts
ye yes yes youre correct midas very weak flora cont heal,shield of athena badss its gone before 2 turn finish and yours DPS are very weak than celestial or tempest cuz the skill are  bad buffs are bad
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  • learn to play your kingdom then
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  • I honestly think this guy should be banned from posting on the forum, every post he makes is about how bad he thinks Midas is
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    2016-4-30 01:18  Reply
  • as long as he doesn't insult anyone i guess he can make critics from day till night. it's like banning for free speech.

    Obviously you can point out what his flaws are in playing midas.. but in my opinion the shield he is talking about is very POWERFull.
    Also sometimes i think flora has the better heals than a'ishah.. other times don't..
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  • Midas is great, players not knowing how to build/play their faction are not. As for flora, she is indeed better than ishah, especially since she gets extra rage per turn which leads to more heals, plus the fact it's focused heals versus spread out ones.
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I did not make this thread to hurt anyone's feeling or point fingers or to call anyone out.  I see a bunch of thread regarding how Midas is behind other faction, whether it may be only focused on pvp or not, does not change the fact that if everyone is claiming how horrible Midas is in pvp, they certainly did not point out the fact how good Midas is for pve.  You can't have it both ways, otherwise that would be consider "op" as everyone like to call it.  If one faction was good at pvp, pve, and other events such as GB/WB/ect, then why would anyone play any other faction?  Is celestial good at pvp?  Yes.  Is Tempest good at WB/GB?  Yes.  Is Midas good at anything?  Answered above.
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Post time 2016-4-29 11:53:55 | Show all posts
Doubt anyone had claimed that Midas is weak in PvE. Midas is not that strong at PvP and WB/GB (at this moment) compared to the other 2 factions assuming both the player and the opponents know what they are doing and are at close BR to each other.

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Thank you for the tips. I am sure players will be happy to see someone has paid attention and shared this information.

Best Wishes,

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I also run a full midas team and I really haven't faced much difficulty using them, except maybe in X-server.
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Post time 2016-4-29 13:25:38 | Show all posts
You actually expect people to use their brain and form a strategy instead of acting like spoiled brats and whining how everything they are not using is OP? Come no now, look at all the ''HUX is OP'' threads
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  • I had a glimmer of hope, needless to say, its gone.
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  • actually i felt really that hux is indeed op. i had a fight today vs someone with lower BR than me and all his heroes were 2 levels under mine's. i still lost that match..
    On the other hand i've killed alot of hux in pve or sometimes in PVP. it needs way more than 1 test to know facts.. way more than once.
    There are too many variables and such witch lead to strong or could / might lead to OP. i can't asume any..
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  • what's your build?
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Post time 2016-4-29 18:33:57 | Show all posts
Well to be fair no one who is complaining about Midas is complaining about PVE performance apart from World and Guild Boss, it is mainly focused on PvP.

Personally I think its way too early to make any educated opinions either way, especially whilst the majority seems so fixated on using Huxley.
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