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It's time for a Balanced Team Bonus

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Post time 2016-11-14 01:57:40 | Show all posts |Read mode
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I'm sure the original idea of the this game was to build your team up by methodically increasing capability across your squad.  That type of approach maximizes revenues and follows with the intuitive nature of the game.

At some point, it was realized that you could dump all of your resources into 2 angels and easily dominate the field.  While I applaud the inginuity, it does leave people scratching their heads when a player with 20,000,000 BR clobbers one with 40,000,000 BR.  It also raises questions why anyone would want to put any kind of money into this game when it can be easily worked around.

I think it's time for a Balanced Team Bonus award.  Here are my thoughts:

Like items on same Level = 50% BR Buff
Like items within 5% of each other in level = 25% BR Buff
Like items within 10% of each other in level = 5% BR Buff
Like items greater than 10% of each other in level = No BR Buff

By Items I mean:
  Angel:  Level/Augment/Upgrade/Anime/Codex
  Equipment:  Enhance/Refine/Enchant
  Runes:  Level
  Relic:  Evolve/Enchantment/Engrave
  Battle Pet:  Level/Augment/Upgrade


This would encourage players to level up evenly across their squad; and if they leveled up disrupting the BR Buff Bonus range they are currently setting in, it would encourage them to work to regain that significant BR Buff they lost as quicly as possible.

It has to mean something for it to be effective, and I think a 5/25/50% BR Buff would be substantial enough for people to abandon the 2/3 hero strategy for a more balanced attack.  Plus, I think it would make significantly more money for Gtarcade as well.
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Post time 2016-11-14 16:46:17 | Show all posts
Hey cold....

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The Problem lies in Balance mostly. Guy with a 20million Moira and a Pixie in a 30million BR range conquest or xserver is unkillable for real its not the problem that he wins the problem is wins 1000 fights in row without losing anything. Fights btw 2 of those guys end in Draw because the not able to kill each other The Single Carry Tactic can only be Beaten by you name it another Single Carry with more Br in his single carry When the Strengthen Balance squad in  way that the atleast matter or that you can kill a single carry guy with 2-3 attacks so team tactics do something  would be enoungh .

The Team size was never inteded to be anything other than 5 the where just lazy to fix it in a timely matter and now people feel entitelded to there Team sizes =)
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  • you still can kill someone like that with 2-3 attacks. you just have to counter in some way his heal/life leech/1st turn mass ulty and there are plenty ways to do that
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    2016-11-14 06:16  Reply
  • In some way is funny lol =) What way the Pets aka the Cats do nothing stun/immobilize does nothing Because there pixie keeps healing him for a million each round  25% Dr i might add my team needs 3 rounds to kill him if he not getting healed that would be
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  • then the problem is not the 1 strong hero but the pixie. because if a 2 balance teams fight the one with the strongest pixie will win again
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  • this just shows you have 0 knowledge of the game lol. A player with 20 million moira would be lethal in any range, not just 30 mil range.I saw a player with 60 mil  br and 20 mil moira that ended up in top 10 cs-dom simply because $ always own . This is a heavy casher too not just a tiny casher using 5 men team but a 2 mil Moira. The guys you've met with big br mythics would still own you if they played with 5 players/balanced team because $>everything else.
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  • Reply kronus : Event XSD is different with events in XSW and Conquest..., XSD is like event Battle Royale with battle system end battle (no loop, you lost, you can't respawn) but without buff.
    And event XSW and Conquest are using system no end battle (loop battle, you lose, you can still respawn).
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  • Single carry can still get one shot by pet: ifrit or undine...
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I don't think there is any need to make more suggestions on how to balance the teams since they have already made adjustments in the Chinese version. It is just either GTArcade is slow or don't want to follow the lead of the developer who feed them this game to publish.
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Zuletzt bearbeitet von k.frost um 2016-11-13 21:28
It is just either GTArcade is slow or don't want to follow the lead of the developer who feed them this game to publish.

It's not just the developer it's their mother company. An THIS is the man responsible for all our problems...



Let him know your Rage!   
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  • There is GTArcade the game developer and GTArcade.com the publisher are two entities. Youzu owns them but you can feel there is probably some politics involved there as the Western version of this game is straying away from the Chinese version.
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  • I have more of a feeling that youzu simply don't care what GTA is doing as long as they keep the money flow going.
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Post time 2016-11-14 02:44:25 | Show all posts
awesome!!!
i can't wait for these update
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Post time 2016-11-14 02:51:26 | Show all posts
so you want to discourage people from thinking outside the box? sounds like something a communist government would do lol.
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  • Nobody can stop other people from thinking their way but it won't matter as development is already done and the update is waiting to be applied.

    Nobody can discourage other people from giving suggestions on Eternal War but is it productive to even make suggestions before one it is being released in a few days?
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  • Is it productive? no, it forces players to play cookie cutter builds, it's already like that with 5 men teams
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  • I don't mean unbalanced teams are good to the game or productive. I mean the update that is supposed to fix it was already implemented and deployed in China. Let's see if GTArcade will put it in. If they don't, the chance is they will ignore suggestions to fix it. If they do, then it is the time to make more comments or suggestions.
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Post time 2016-11-14 03:32:58 | Show all posts
agree that dumping all on 1-2 heroes kills the game but what you are suggesting would do the same.
leveling all heroes the same leaves not much space for tactics
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Post time 2016-11-14 04:18:00 | Show all posts
Where's the fun in that
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Edited by m a d at 2016-11-14 04:40

Buff coded/system already included in events Battle Royale with 10% ATK and DR of 5 heroes, that's why balance team can still win against solo carries within same BR by 2-5 times (depend on all of your equipment heroes, sometimes you can't win) , ofc..., you've to sacrifice more diamonds to do that

But in events XSW and Conquest, there's system battle with no end battle (loop battle) and it's not easy to change the system of bonus for balance team, because both events have some difficult/complex math within players based on BR total and based on BR per heroes. Simple math didn't work on both events . Btw..., both events are for Casher satisfaction who are sacrifice spend real money and gift from company too .
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Post time 2016-11-14 04:49:54 | Show all posts
the amusing part is that nothing is killing the game but dumb thinking. Players think outside the box because the game forces them to. Look at abyss or most activities, you need to keep alive all players while winning to gain full stars. So far I've seen main only, no hero, 1 hero and main, 2 heroes and main, 3 heroes and main and full 5 men team.Do you know which one is the most efficient? 5 men if you are a big casher, 2 heroes and a main if you are not, the rest are trash combos.How did the guy with no heroes at all happen? No clue, but it's a horrible strategy to use that only.
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  • 1 last formation, no main and no heroes !!!!
    this formation only available for our most awesome player, colderasj !!!!
    he can beat everyone from VIP 0 to VIP 99 with it
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Post time 2016-11-14 05:13:22 | Show all posts
I don't understand .. "Like items on same Level = 50% BR Buff"

BR does nothing .. i can have 50 million BR with four lvl 1 blue heros, it add's no strength to my team

I like your general concept, like if all 5 team member are at r11 for example, then give some kinda bonus to DEF or Atack, but giving higher BR will add nothing, and will put you up against far stronger players.
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