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        Someone tell me exactly how dodge works.. My lancer has 14.6k dodge and going against a mage who has 4.1k of hit who has a lancer that has 1.5k hit and a valk that has 3k hit. Seeing the big gap in hit rate, I would have expected my lancer to be able to dodge most hits.;But yet it still seems very often that my lancer gets hit regardless of aoe or normal hits.;

        So what\'s the use of having a high dodge if you still get hit often by people with low hit rates?
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        I don\'t know :S

        My Hermes has 30 000 dodge and still gets hit by enemies with 5 000 hit.
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        No one knows for sure the exact game mechanics of dodge.; As with most games like this, those things are usually closely guarded secrets by the game devs.; There is another thread like this one.; The best explanation that I saw that makes sense is this: If you look at your dodge rate, it says \'Increases the chances to dodge by (certain)%.; So if each char/hero has a base dodge rate, your dodge stat just increases based upon that.

        Just for example.; Let\'s say each char/hero has a base dodge rate of 20%.; If your dodge stat increases chances to dodge by 100%, that would only give you a 40% dodge rate.; This may or may not be in fact how it works, but seems to make sense.

        There also may be some RNG (random number generators) that come into play.
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        I posted this question last time and it seems that dodge relies on a Coefficient to calculate its dodge rate. It only multiplies that coefficient by the % bonus dodge that your character has. That is only my assumption.
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I guess it is better to look at the % rather than the amount on each stats then.
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        The short answer is we don\'t know.
        Perhaps it takes into account the percentage of your dodge and subtract that from the percentage of the hit from your opponent. Then it calculates the percentage of your critical and subtracts that from the percentage of your endurance.
        So perhaps:
        - Dodge: 120.45% - Hit: 85.34% = 35.11% chance
        Followed by:
        - Crit: 115.20% - END: 75.75% = 39.25% chance

        It\'s just a theory.
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        Conclusion, dodge is just sub stat, not main stat. it based on luck only.;
        so, dodger is completely useless build in this game.

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        yeah sadly even i my self do not know the mathematic equation they are using for this.

        as far as i can see though a lot depends on RNG too so just luck at times i guess.
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          ;;;;                        Conclusion, dodge is just sub stat, not main stat. it based on luck only.;       
                        so, dodger is completely useless build in this game.       
       
;;; lycan x posted on 2014-10-19 03:40:10;;;;


        Dodge is not useless, LOL. whoever said dodge is useless is noob yes NOOB. just paired it up with DEF HP(passives/totems) and you\'re good.
        it doesnt hurt to have a tank that can dodge, tho its not a main stat but it can definitely help kick your opponents ass. i rather have a dodge tank vs pure def/hp tank coz ignore def is a pain. and we all hate to see our skills being dodged ya ? i encounter one hermes @CSA prolly running 200% dodge or more(prolly 40k++ dodge), I CANT HIT THE GUY X_X , i have decent hit mind u, as long u got 120+% u bound to hit some. but somehow i cant hit him, i forgot the guy\'s ign.
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        well, thats the main reason why i said it was useless. U need alot of dodge to see its effect. 40k++ dodge vs what ur hit? (my guess around 15k). so, 25k diff. if 25k diff still not dodge alot, this game completely broken lol

        And by dodger build i mean dodge as main stat. I nvr said it\'s useless as subs stat, since it also help u in battle. (of course, if u get lucky). Ofcourse, for tanker, ppl will get celebration of hp title. But for 3 passive skill hero, i dont think it is wise to invest 1 slot for dodge.

        in the end, different ppl has diff opinion. This is just my opinion.
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