Need an advice against Hunters/Rangers

schezemu

        Hi all, i need some help with hunters/rangers and especially Courage Dragonsoul skill.
        Top 5 chars on our server are 4 hunters/rangers and my mystic ... i can\'t fight for 1st/2nd spot in CoM as the BR/money spent difference is too big there, but anyway with rangers 3 and 4 i can compete ... no matter my char has bigger BR, my claw has bigger BR(my total BR is lower) and they don\'t have much bigger dodge/hit than me, i keep loosing because of that Courage skill ... i think it\'s not 36% at lvl 2, but more like 90% ... with angel Aquaris it\'s pretty annoying. Here is one battle, it\'s not one of the worst scenarios with Courage i had, but still enough.
http://s387-angel.gtarcade.com/share.php?sid=39005900000387&pkId=1135464861da63b1
        I as a Mystic don\'t complain about having bad dragonsoul skill, compared to some other classes, but shouldn\'t this courage have some limits .. for example 5 times per battle or something like that ? I can\'t resurrect forever ... it\'s 1 time only i think (the 2nd comes from the armor).
        Don\'t get me wrong, i\'m not complaining, just those 4 rangers are one of the few active players left on our server, who actually know what they are doing in this game .. so for the last 2-3 weeks i do all my daily CoM attempts on them and i notice that i mostly loose because of 5-6-7 hits went in the Courage shield .. So if anyone knows any way to lower this, please tell me
        And why the hell his Styx with 4.6k Hit rate lands like 80% of the hits on my 12k Dodge ? And when i use Mikaela (85 lvl Unearthly) with 5k hit rate, she can\'t land a single hit on 12.5k dodge ? Does Angel hit depends on main hit rate or it\'s separate ?

        P.S. Thank you devs for implementing the Helper and the Log on/off thingy ... i was about to quit because didn\'t had enough time to do all daily tasks .. now that doesn\'t take much time at all! Nice one

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raphangelo

        the problem you have is you don\'t have \'rage loop\'

        Let say you have rage loop and able to use skill attack everytime. (or every 2 turns)

        Then you can hit back line with claw and your main. Also each time you attack = it is meaningful since they are \'stronger\'.

        More number of attacks you give to enemy archer main, more chances for them gain free shield. even with dodge.

        Also your fire totem can proc enemy archer dragonsoul shield.;

        Also need higher hit. Overall you gotta make every attack meaningful.

        Bottom line is to burst down enemy archer with 2-3attacks. If it is \'long-delayed fight\', archer will win no matter what, just like main+hectate people. You gotta burst and remove useless hero that can give free shield to enemies (your KoB)

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schezemu

Reply 1# raphangelo
Ty very much, i noticed that using Pdef/Mdef gems is pretty useless for some reason, all those archers don\'t have a single pdef/mdef gem and there is almost no difference with my pdef/mdef stats, with pdef/mdef gem in each piece of armor ... i better put more hit/crit gems instead of pdef/mdef ... what do you think? Does it worth using pdef/mdef gems at all ?

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jd dv8

        Get dragon totem for now and use on Main and Nerida.;
       

        Get rid of Celestial for Light Envoy (casher?)or Astral child for rage loop
       

        Main Gems;
        MATK
        HP
        HIT
        MATK/DODGE
        DODGE/BLOCK
       

        Beef up Claws hardcore

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schezemu

Reply 3# jd dv8
Well i\'m low cashier, just VIP, but i\'m gathering card lotto vauchers and i have ~900 now, soon ill have enough for Amazon Hunter + Light Envoy. Ill try how Amazon + IRB works .. hope it worths it

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jd dv8

        Also on main gems last spot is for dodge I missed.

        Do get LE ASAP       If LE is gonna take a while to obtain get Astral Child for back row rage loop for claws.

        I would not waste my time on AHunter unless you really like the PVE side of the game. I\'d save those resources for ES.

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яє∂ѕнιfт

main thing to fight archers is, don\'t miss and don\'t have a full party of heroes that miss, it gives shields for the party members you have that actually hit.

I say this as an archer who has exploited this weakness in all around builds for months.

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letanis

          ;;;; main thing to fight archers is, don\'t miss and don\'t have a full party of heroes that miss, it gives shields for the party members you have that actually hit.

I say this as an archer who has exploited this weakness in all around builds for months. ;;; redshift posted on 2014-11-15 15:47:15;;;;

        would you quit giving away our weaknesses I like the fact that I don\'t get hit unless buy good players that have invested some effort of thought into their builds

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weise wulf

Reply 7# letanis

        I love how 13k - 14k hit won\'t hit 16k dodge.;Don\'t worry, 90% of population never read forums.
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Problem with same BR archer vs others is their AOE skill totally superior. Rage loop would be useless in this case, when combined with a striker, archer just destroy the team;regardless of your build (resources for defense never enough, unless you start having 1m2+ HP supports);

In case they not using AOE skill, make sure none of your heroes misses (busy casting spells/dead/not available in battle).

Their advantage is immense but archers do die quick if you hit them at the right time.

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letanis

Reply 8# weise wulf
sorry but the full aoe hunters get is not superior to a burst shot when it comes down to main vs main full aoe is great for weeding out the heros but other than that in pvp its not all that now in pve it is beyond amazing

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