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lvl 14 star skills are game-changing, knights,fighters,mages skills working... and spiritus?, lets look at it;
        here are skill lvls and descriptions
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        DAMAGE WITH SPIRIT BOUND;

DAMAGE WITH LIGHT SHOCK;


TESTED WITH SAME AMOUNT OF HP, WITH SAME MONSTER, SAME ATTACK;
HERE IS THE BIG QUESTION;
HOW CAN SPIRIT BOUND DEAL
106526 DAMAGE WITH 4575 BASE DAMAGE AND BONUS DAMAGE IS BASED ON CURRENT HP AND HAS NO IGNORE DEFENCE;
HOW CAN LIGHT SHOCK DEAL  79910   DAMAGE WITH 5032 BASE DAMAGE AND BONUS DAMAGE IS BASED ON MAX HP    AND HAS IGNORE DEFENCE

FIX THIS GUYS LVL 14 SKILLS ARE GAME CHANGING WE GET DAMAGED BY ALL CLASSES WE CAN DEAL NO

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        Devs have confirmed this is working as intended, here is the critical point you are missing.

        it is based on MAX HP not HP %
        meaning it scales the more HP you have, which sadly atm it hits for crap since players HP is incredibly difficult to get up to a point where light shocks damage would be noticeable and a threat.

        There will be mount + vestment upgrades soon so this will raise your HP a lot

        just think of it like this also.

        for every 1 MATK point you get +5 damage
        but for every 500HP you get + 5 damage

         so HP scales much worse and you require more of it. late game though spiritus get incredibly strong and tanky as well. but sadly begin/mid game they arent quite as powerful and lack behind.
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        i think ur char min matk and max matk is taken into consideration too.
        thats probably the reason ur attacks drop
        correct me if im wrong.;
       
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@secretrogue come on how can current hp based skill deal more than max hp based skill and with  lower base damage, it is not logical, then spirit bound will deal more damage too at late game and light shock will still be considered bugged
u see my point ? and u have havent mentioned anything about IGNORE DEFENCE ?
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Reply 2# law s146
this is tested like 20 times LS always lower damage results are same, it would make little differences
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Reply 4# feverray

        Hi,
        You can compare those 2 skills with Wrath of the Ice God and Sirens Song.
        Ice Gods Wrath being more risky to use (useless when you are near death, but strong at high HP). Sirens Song doing stable damage, not based onto current HP.

        Light shock deals damage based on MAX HP, as Sirens Song does damage based on max MATK, however there is no difference if you cast it with high or low HP. However, Spirit Bound can be compared to wrath of the ice gods, meaning it will deal a LOT less damage at low HP.

        You can compare it like this:
        Spirit Bound:
        100% HP (max HP)= 100% damage on the target.
        1% HP will lower the damage done to, let\'s say 30%.

        Light Shock
        1% HP will still do 100% damage.
        but 100% HP will also do 100% damage.

        The risk is that the HIGHER your CURRENT HP, the HIGHER your damage on spirit bound, but if you get hit the damage lowers drastically. However, Light Shock is based on MAX HP and not on current HP, so they can\'t give it as much damage as Spirit Bound since it would simply be broken.
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Reply 5# chronocommander happy
this was tested with %100 hps
i cant understand this how can spirit bounds damage can be much more than a skill which has ignore defence which has more base damage and which has practically more bonus damage calculation way (the max hp )
i understand what u say but if this continues like this at later stages spirit bound will still deal more damage with lower base damage and without ignoring defance

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Reply 6# feverray

        Yes, Spirit Bound will always deal higher damage at full HP compared to Light Shock. However, Spirit Bound doesn\'t ignore defense, so the damage will fall off once you start fighting 100k MDEF + players.
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Reply 7# chronocommander happy
dont u think spiritus lvl 14 skill is nothing compared to other classes ? this skill needs to be reworked if it is working as intented now
        i was able to compete with knights before lvl 14 skills came out now 1 tornado blow gets entire party to %50 hp ;no need to talk about fighters or mages too;
spiritus is like a step child;
and why SP deal more damage @ %100 hp then LS @%100 HP  whats the mechanic  LS Has more base damage ignore defance etc, their damage should be same @ %100 hp then
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Reply 8# feverray

        Nothing compared to other classes? This is probally one of the best skills in the game in the lategame..
        Ignore defense, increased damage based on MAX HP. I would trade this skill anyday for omnious decapitation.

        Anyway, the skill works as intended..
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