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I am wondering, in your opinion, which one is better. I have Athena and Poseidon as MATK and am building Gus as a tank. The bonus skills that Siren and Jester give will both work, but I am curious as to which one you think is better and why. Any input appreciated. Thanks.

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          ;;;; I am wondering, in your opinion, which one is better. I have Athena and Poseidon as MATK and am building Gus as a tank. The bonus skills that Siren and Jester give will both work, but I am curious as to which one you think is better and why. Any input appreciated. Thanks. ;;; matthew osterhoudt posted on 2015-02-28 11:36:45;;;;

        I cant tell you who is better cause everyone has a different opinion so ill tell you this

        jester give back some; energy [the thing used to cast your skills], at the same time jester hits back row with doom skill and puts them in a trance. remember trance is not stun . trance is more like sleep and if hit by any source of damage [aoe, ] it will wake up the enemy, [so far there is still a bug where jester is somehow still doing 70kdamage at a low lvl someone said no sure but I guess that their own advantage atm]...

        depending on your hero like you said this is the bonus for character and the aura bonus for your hero below

       


        siren skill will debuff a the enemy with increase damage [the increase damage will depend I think on the bout level]
       

        siren hits aoe not single target like jester, so it will target the whole group [jester will have more damage to back row since its single, siren will have less damage but it will be aoe [you can increase damage anyway so its not a big deal]

        siren stats for your main and hero looks like this

       

        since this game has evolve to aoe massive [gus/Graeme/pose/Apollo/paris/ ect ect ect] You would not want to use jester since its trance will just basically be knocked off

        my OPINION would be head for siren as its more beneficial, and the aura and stats are great for your set up

        why do I put so much work into things... gosh damit wish I was lazy or potatoe couch

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Well you should eventually get both cause of beast melee. If you play a Knight, Spiritus or Mage you should go more for Siren but Fighters should go more Jester Cat. Also should switch out Athena for another attack hero such as Ragged or Hades.
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Siren, no contest, especially as Jester\'s DPS can be countered, its purely magic based, and as dioni pointed out already, the sleep is knocked off most of the time anyways.
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          ;;;; Siren, no contest, especially as Jester\'s DPS can be countered, its purely magic based, and as dioni pointed out already, the sleep is knocked off most of the time anyways. ;;; deth posted on 2015-03-01 03:13:46;;;;

        I honestly think a fighter with Jester is better than having Siren for them, plus your AOE for heroes don\'t activate all that often unless it\'s Apollo who activates all the time. A fighter needs more something to take down the back while they are murdering the front.
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          ;;;;                          ;;;; Siren, no contest, especially as Jester\'s DPS can be countered, its purely magic based, and as dioni pointed out already, the sleep is knocked off most of the time anyways. ;;; deth posted on 2015-03-01 03:13:46;;;;        
       
                        I honestly think a fighter with Jester is better than having Siren for them, plus your AOE for heroes don\'t activate all that often unless it\'s Apollo who activates all the time. A fighter needs more something to take down the back while they are murdering the front.;       
;;; deaththepuppy posted on 2015-03-01 04:28:38;;;;


        before i go to sleep dont forget poseidon destroyer tide, and he is one of the hero mostly used which mean it will make jester\'s back row trance obselete, atleast so far siren will add a debuff and do aoe damage. plz note that if i was awsome i would of had my siren at 70%skill damage like top player do [i dont work on beast meele much but will do] which in technicall term instead of 84000 right now damage it would come close to atleast 100k damage aoe ^,^..

        just saying nighty night
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          ;;;;                          ;;;;                                          ;;;; Siren, no contest, especially as Jester\'s DPS can be countered, its purely magic based, and as dioni pointed out already, the sleep is knocked off most of the time anyways. ;;; deth posted on 2015-03-01 03:13:46;;;;                
               
                                        I honestly think a fighter with Jester is better than having Siren for them, plus your AOE for heroes don\'t activate all that often unless it\'s Apollo who activates all the time. A fighter needs more something to take down the back while they are murdering the front.;               
;;; deaththepuppy posted on 2015-03-01 04:28:38;;;;        

       
                        before i go to sleep dont forget poseidon destroyer tide, and he is one of the hero mostly used which mean it will make jester\'s back row trance obselete, atleast so far siren will add a debuff and do aoe damage. plz note that if i was awsome i would of had my siren at 70%skill damage like top player do [i dont work on beast meele much but will do] which in technicall term instead of 84000 right now damage it would come close to atleast 100k damage aoe ^,^..        
       
                        just saying nighty night        
;;; judgement posted on 2015-03-01 04:50:19;;;;


        Destroyer Tides being his Special which wouldnt be activating that much. I run Jester with Poseidon and it has some in handy, plus anything in back that gets hit by both Jester and Poseidon tend to be dead.
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        @death you must be on the weak zone than, meaning the people your fighting are extremely weak, well my pose in the back as dps has 300k hp so jester wouldn\'t kill him unless he does that much damage which he doesn\'t ^,^.. so yes your right if you fighting extremely weak people jester should beat the back row. tho it wont be stronger people, at the same time hades of mine is not in back row but with 248k hp which jester wont beat

        either way I gave my data to him and it will be up to him if he really want to use jester. good luck

        one tiny example is your jester is 77k doing damage to your top contender 700k spirit, in 1st place, hero at dps -280k+hp [pose] and I think around 190k hpgus[not sure since its going off of my last visit], this means for pose if he was in the back ou need to do 203k already to kill , which 77k will just damage and trance pretty easy to break tho, and if that person the spirit is in the back its 700k hp tha tperson has thus not even pose will kill.. just saying . preference of kill vs live
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          ;;;;                        @death you must be on the weak zone than, meaning the people your fighting are extremely weak, well my pose in the back as dps has 300k hp so jester wouldn\'t kill him unless he does that much damage which he doesn\'t ^,^.. so yes your right if you fighting extremely weak people jester should beat the back row. tho it wont be stronger people, at the same time hades of mine is not in back row but with 248k hp which jester wont beat        
       
                        either way I gave my data to him and it will be up to him if he really want to use jester. good luck        
       
                        one tiny example is your jester is 77k doing damage to your top contender 700k spirit, in 1st place, hero at dps -280k+hp [pose] and I think around 190k hpgus[not sure since its going off of my last visit], this means for pose if he was in the back ou need to do 203k already to kill , which 77k will just damage and trance pretty easy to break tho, and if that person the spirit is in the back its 700k hp tha tperson has thus not even pose will kill.. just saying . preference of kill vs live        
;;; judgement posted on 2015-03-01 11:44:42;;;;


        I\'m not that weak actually, and the fact is that most back row that get hit by Destroyer and Jester will be dead. There is also the fact that Destroyer tends to go off before Jester so the Trance won\'t be cut off.;
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          ;;;;                        ;
       

                        I\'m not that weak actually, and the fact is that most back row that get hit by Destroyer and Jester will be dead. There is also the fact that Destroyer tends to go off before Jester so the Trance won\'t be cut off.;       
;;; deaththepuppy posted on 2015-03-01 16:59:41;;;;



        I even gave you an explantion that its not calling you weak its calling that your fighting the weak one;;

          ;;;;                        @death you must be on the weak zone than, meaning the people your fighting are extremely weak,         
;;; judgement posted on 2015-03-01 11:44:42;;;;



        so as an example how does you jester fair up against;



        http://i.imgur.com/jMiUDRV.jpg; against this person. if you can leave me a link via pm or if you can battle him and show the battle while im in your server I would love to gather some of that data since you are using a triple cannon build set up;;
       

        tho seriously change that gus out of aria of devil already im getting game sickness ill beback for it when umm tomorrow it hink  got 2 project to finish with other games

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