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26.5 billion damage. I do use adv. morale boosts (cause 500 diamonds is less than the cost of ONE drink at the bar, so I don\'t care) but even if you cut my damage in half, it\'s still really damn high. I don\'t use respawn/revive, because by the time the log finishes and I\'m back to the start, it would only save me 3-4 seconds.

I figured I would put together my strategy, with some visuals for anyone struggling with setting up a party for this:

For reference below, here is my party setup:



And my highest hit:



That\'s 344,108,988 damage, for the comma impaired. The B.R. is slightly different because I made some gem tweaks between the party screen cap and the combat screen cap.


Now on to the guide!!!

First and foremost, this is a completely different fight from World Boss and Gauntlet. You CAN NOT dodge tank through this, and hope to time out. You will die. Every time. Which brings me to item #1:

1. Defense - Survive for as long as possible

The first four rounds of combat will be very large single-target damage shots from the orc, while round five and onward will be very large full-party damage bombs. Rage reduction techniques do not work, the orc will always do these attacks, in that order, even if you drain its rage to zero.;No amount of damage reduction, dodge, healing or tankiness availed me in surviving the AOE, so defensively, the strategy became: How do I survive for as long as possible? -- the solution is Cannon Fodder, and Aquarius Zodiac.

Cannon fodder:
My two least useful heroes are positioned to eat the first four single-target shots, keeping my damage dealers and rage builders alive. Just like world boss and gauntlet bosses, the orc will target your center-front hero first (bottom-front second, top-front third) ... I put my Hecate in center front, with my panda on backup (see party snippet above)

A standard attack sequence will look like this:

Round 1 - Single target attack: Hecate dies, respawns via armor
Round 2 - Single target attack: Hecate dies, panda replaces
Round 3 - Single target attack: Panda dies, respawns via armor
Round 4 - Single target attack: Panda dies
Round 5 - Full party attack: Everyone dies, respawns via armor
Round 6 - Full party attack: Everyone dies, combat over

*5 rounds of damage output, as the orc generally attacks first, killing everyone in 6 before they can attack.

Adding aquarius:
Aquarius becomes arguably the best zodiac to use in my arrangement, for its ability to completely negate up to two;waves of damage. The perfect timing Aquarius bubble makes combat look like this:

Round 1 - Single target attack: Hecate dies, respawns via armor
Round 2 - Single target attack: Hecate dies, panda replaces
Round 3 - Single target attack: Panda dies, respawns via armor -- Aquarius bubbles for ALL! Yaaay!
Round 4 - Single target attack: Panda survives, immune to damage
Round 5 - Full party attack: Everyone survives, immune to damage
Round 6 - Full party attack: Everyone dies, respawns via armor (except for panda, who used his armor respawn in round 3) -- Aquarius bubbles for all AGAIN! YAAAAY!
Round 7 -;Full party attack: Everyone survives, immune to damage
Round 8 - Full party attack: Everyone survives, immune to damage
Round 9 - Full party attack: Everyone dies, combat is over.

* 8 rounds of damage output

You can factor in the dragonsoul respawns coming from your rage builders, but since they don\'t do any damage, them surviving isn\'t that big a deal.;

Utilizing cannon fodder and aquarius, you will do damage for between 5 and 8 rounds.

2. Offense: Maximize the damage

Amazon hunter and main with shadow-strike lined up on a fire totem is the way to be, here, but this will only work if you can;successfully;feed them rage every turn. I am lucky enough to have Nereida and Messenger of Darkness upgraded to the point of giving out 109 rage to the party every turn, allowing me to use fire totem, ;but if you are working with a dissimilar rage build, you may need to tweak the arrangement a bit. With your cannon fodder in your center front and backup positions, you can arrange your remaining four heroes however you like.;

The basic strategy here: Ensure you have a complete rage build so that your strikers do skill attacks every turn. With only 5-8 rounds to attack with, you want them churning out as much damage in as short amount of time as possible.

Optimum output is to have two heavy strikers doing skill attacks every turn. Can\'t get enough rage for that to work? Try three rage builders and one heavy striker. You won\'t do as much as with two fully-fed strikers, but you still do more than with two half-fed strikers.


3. The little stuff

Zodiac blessings:
I use Aries (+8% to damage) Gemini (+6% ATK, DEF, AGI) and Capricorn (+20% to target with highest ATK)
I\'ve experimented swapping in Libra blessing (+30% crit damage) but found Aries to give me much more consistent numbers.

Gems:
Doesn\'t hurt to exchange/move your gems to maximize ATK and Crit... I will strip gems off of my fodder/rage builders just to maximize this for my two damage dealers, and just put them all back afterwards.

Artifacts:
Reduce enemy defense, increase party damage and the Chest of Flames/Galaxy ring nuke are the three most useful here.

Angel:
Raphael if you have him, otherwise use one with an optimal halo (Attack for your strikers)

Stable:
Go all out offense here. +Atk, +atk, and more +atk after that... +crit if you don\'t have three mounts that do +atk on them

4. Skills
Primary-
Shadow strike. Learn it, Level it, Love it. Even up into boss level 60, my shadow strike out-damages blazing arrow every time. Now if you really don\'t have that much attack, blazing arrow might be the way to go, but shadow strike is the only skill I ever use.

Joint-
Sands of time. High single target damage, and it lowers their defense... what more do you want?
Alternate: Desperate prayer - I used this for the latter half of my 26.5 bil run... It seemed to give me a consistently higher average than Sands of Time... Being a class skill, it has a 15% higher chance of triggering, and will boost my shadow strike for the next turn. That is hunter only, so you might experiment with your class skills to see if you have one that can do better.

Finishing-
Whichever of your skills does the most damage. I use Flame Dash, since that has the highest damage output. You might consider a class skill, if it does almost as much damage, a class skills have that higher chance to trigger. Hunter class skills don\'t do enough damage, so I stick to FD


By all accounts, this is not the be-all, end-all only way to do this... just a very, very effective strategy that I wanted to share with you.


ALTERNATE STRATEGY:

If you don\'t have anywhere near the heroes necessary to produce even a marginally effective damage output, and feel like your 100k damage is useless and you just shouldn\'t participate in DW...;Try this instead:

Set up some cannon fodder for your front-center and backup positions. Strip them naked if you like, so long as they have respawn armor on. Add a serpent totem.

The orc will hit you for ~10 million damage. With a purple serpent totem (very easily acquired) you will reflect 1.8 million of that. You will reflect 1.8 million... for six rounds.... That\'s over 10 million damage. If you average 3 attacks per minute (20 seconds per attack is easily doable) you will do 120 attacks and a total of 1.2 billion damage... buck naked and with a totem you can buy from the shop for 200 badges. No special heroes required, at all.


Hope that helps somebody!
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Shadow strike at DW? i have 3x more dmg iff i use blazing arow
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  • SS with SOT and Adv Justice Emblem over 600k attack will do more dmg 100% of the time, over 900k attack you dont need the emblem. im not sure about when atk clears 1.5m.
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          ;;;; Shadow strike at DW? i have 3x more dmg iff i use blazing arow ;;; stefek bator posted on 2015-03-15 07:23:55;;;;

Depends a lot on how high your attack is and which one you have leveled more.

Level 10 Shadowstrike for me is 405% + 83,400 damage while My level 8 Blazing Arrow is 250% + 67,000 w/ ignore defense

155% extra damage more than makes up for the ignore defense...;

Best bet is to try both and see which one does more... I average 70-80m damage lower with blazing arrow than with shadow-strike...;but I do have 810k attack...
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        Shadowstrike is awesome. Thats all I ever use.

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        Ok since he cut his first picture I will post the full shot so you can see how much he outdamages the rest of us. ;

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Thank you very very much for the complete and;useful advices. I will get me a rage boost totem (purple one will be good enough) and change my dodge gems for crib before DW...        Aquarius was already my choice.

        IGN Sherardia (S131 - CrimsonWarrior)
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sloth, would you mind doing us a favor of sharing a batle log  so we can see a little deeper. ;I do much better watching than I do with explanations. ;

thanks for the write up.
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I\'ll try. ; ; No share feature with auto-log. 40 seconds to load a battle I have no interest in watching when i need to be back in the action in less than 10 seconds will likely get you a below average round, at best, if, and only if, i do manage to click share on the garbage interface before it rapid-fires me past that screen;back to relative now
       
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        Really nice guide sloth.
        Thanks a lot.
        With this i managed to get decent damage.
        Could not able 2 use Fire totem, as my inial rage is 0.
        Things working exactly as u said.
       
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I\'m guessing dodge/hit gems are totally pointless?
        It\'s all about Patk & Crit?


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