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Hello fellow players out there, today I am here to discuss about a subject, which regards the Joint Skills of Berserkers.
So I was thinking, PvE wise of course, which of the following two skills would be my best option, here they are:

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Don\'t tell me it\'s an issue to discuss on the strategy section, nobody seems to be into that section that much, I wanted everyone\'s opinion on that. My group consists of Earthshaker, Godless Wolf and two group supports, while my main is a berserker from the looks of it.
I am currently sticking with Valiant Banner although I am not sure if this is my best option. No other Joint Skill -especially the ones with 35% trigger rate- seem to be better than those two on the other hand.
So any feedback would be perfect here.
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Post time 2015-3-27 21:14:17 | Show all posts

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well yes lol, these have been great for PvE for a long time. But it just depends on how much of a damage boost they really give. Sometimes the awaken partner skills like thunderclap and Sands of time will hit harder and yield greater damage then the total boosted damage from valiant banner and warriors roar. Also with the game\'s notoriety for such a wide damage spectrum, its hard to tell if the boost is even coming from the skills
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Well yeah but it\'s hard levelling a skill like Sands of Time when I am already focusing on the two arrows and two more Halo Skills. Apart from that, 35% trigger rate of Joint Skill will also significantly lower the trigger rate of my Finishing Skill.;
It\'s not like a debate of which one to use, I\'d love to hear opinions on which one does the community think makes the most impact, especially in such a heavy (P)ATK based group. 18% on each hero or 23% x3 layers on a berserker?
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        I think there\'s a couple factors that will affect the answer quite a bit is how long do your wolf and ES stay alive compared to your main, if they only survive to receive this buff 0-1 times then I would go with warrior\'s roar out of the 2 you have posted. ;Also, what is the attack of those 2 heroes compared to your main? ;If your main hits much harder then I would rather have the bigger boost on him.

        Just my initial thoughts. ;If it was me I would probably try both in the same situation multiple times and see which ends up with the most damage.
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We\'re talking about Gauntlet and World Boss PvE mostly here. So it\'s two hits for World Boss and 6 for Gauntlet that those skills would make difference, because the coyotes in Gauntlet have like 30% HP of the damage I can deal. So I want to take the most out of those 6 dragon hits and those 2 world boss hits. And with such a low amount of hits I don\'t think I can have a proper result of which would be better. My ES and GW both stay up alive till the end of the fight.
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It completely depends on your build and what you\'re facing.

        For instance, say you do high level Spire with standard heroes: those heroes will basically not deal any damage. At this point, Warrior\'s Roar is likely far superior over valiant banner: it\'s a bigger boost, and it stacks.
        However also, Sands of Time might be even better IF your heroes otherwise far outdamage your main, as the Def reduction may make your heroes do more damage than Roar would.

Add to that, are you IRB\'ing and using emblems? This is notable with the sorc skill thor\'s fury (+54% DMGon next ATK) in particular: it\'s next to useless in a basic setup, but becomes extremely powerful in an IRB that makes it affect a rage skill next turn. Not sure on the roar mechanics, but it seems to me as a skill that likewise works best if you trigger it every turn.

In the end, those benefits may sometimes be outweighed by other issues. Thunderclap is primarily good to give you a lot of heals. Sands if great against dodgers and to reduce def (with good dmg), but not so good on bosses. Dark arrow is good against high def bosses. Abyssal Gaze is great for backrow wrecking, as well as protecting your own setup.

        Your particular question would be about Gauntlet dragons and DemWar (WB is pointless to have that much damage, just ruins the game for everyone imo).;
In gauntlet, bosses have no DEF. If you rely a lot on hero damage, VB is likely the best option. If your main is your main damage source, WR probably boosts it better, if you have it proc a lot. I\'d also advise trying thunderclap if your main tanks, or Sands if he doesn\'t, just to compare. But I think WR with ShadowStrike is one of the best hits you can get if you are main-focused with high proc rates.
        If you want to try it, guild bosses may also be useful for testing it. Make sure to watch fights while at it, and re-watch them to note all the numbers, if you really want to know.

        Demwar is a bit more complex, since it seems the bosses have a lot of def. Lacking amazon, and with ES and GW being pretty worthless there, WR+Blazing Arrow would be an obvious way to go. If you have enough attack, Shadowstrike+WR becomes better. The Berserker finishers should also be quite useful in here. GW can be sacrificed (hpoefully reflecting a normal attack).;
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Reply 5# tenshi samshel
Hey there, thanks for taking your time in the reply.
First off, I am only talking about WB, Gauntlet and well Guild Boss, since every other form of PvE would require me using different set of skills, for example Totems, Eternal Spire or Dark Abyss. Demonic War is a category on its own.
Secondly, I rarely to never use emblems, because they\'re kinda hard to farm. I do have IRB though, kinda messy at the moment but I have it.
I am usually going for Valiant Banner but sometimes it just feels like the other one would do better, I don\'t know. My main is on 449k PATK, GW on 456k PATK and ES on 325k PATK.
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