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        The implementation of angel artifacts has turned PVP into random chance.; Initially you had the Galaxy Ring and if you stunned the opponents main you were most likely going to win the battle.; We had that great poll and the issues with stun were highlighted in the poll results.; A new artifact was implemented into the game, Shield of Discord.; The initial effect of removing debuffs and a hp shield offered the perfect counter to the stun fest that was created.;; But then it was taken a step further and a 50% chance for the hero with lowest hps could get supremacy.;; This roll of the dice for supremacy is now the deciding factor in battles.; How so you ask?

        Snow and Fire queen were both made widely available with a large number now in the game.; The attack of this char is devastating and is often coupled with a chaos ring bringing a second attack.; Using the glass cannon build of high PATK and agility and place the char in the right spot in formation.; Now use shield of discord as your opening artifact and you have a 50% chance to have an immune snow/fire queen for round 1.; This is guaranteed damage being dealt out to all members in the opposing party and 0 shot of defending or preventing it.; This is not something you can build to mitigate, it just is plain and simple luck/death if one party lands supremacy and the other doesn\'t.

        A few ideas for fixing this and reducing victories due to pure chance.; On the Galaxy Ring adjust stun % to much more reasonable levels, 10%(green), 15%(blue), 20%(purple) 25%(topaz), 35%(ruby), 45%(yellow).; On shield of discord, the item in itself is good enough without the supremacy buff.; Either remove the supremacy buff or drastically decrease it to the same levels listed above for stun.;

        **edit to correct HP vs formation placement.
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Post time 2015-5-31 10:28:24 | Show all posts

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your change suggestion for galaxy ring is pretty much , keep it the same way for high casher with red+ , and nerf the weak version free players have .
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        Not at all.; Right now purple level is 35%, im a high casher and this is what i have/use.; Galaxy ring is not listed in the artifact guide so I dont know where it is at the higher or lower levels.; This is a pretty fair proposal as we are only talking 10% difference between what you would consider a free player vs a high casher.; This is a much fairer difference than in the majority of the other artifacts from green to purple level.; Take shield of discord 20 - 35 - 50 - 65 - 80 - 100 for for the supremacy buff.; Effectively my proposal drops an 80pt gap to a 35pt gap. Reduce the overall randomness and create a much more even playing field.

        Either way the bigger issue is the shield of discord and the supremacy buff.;; Something there needs to be changed.
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The gap from blue to purple galaxy ring is only 3% .Supremacy is still a single target effect , even if is really cool , nowdays were everything is about aoes , you wont get saved by it .Plus its a only one time per battle effect .
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        1 round on fq with chaos ring= complete victory

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never mind, new artifact always overturn old ones.
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          ;;;; Reply 3# nekooujo
                        1 round on fq with chaos ring= complete victory       
       
;;; яє∂ѕнιfт posted on 2015-05-30 23:19:32;;;;


        Exactly.; If you cant hit FQ in round 1 you are dead, in all likelihood she will get hit round 2 rez via void armor and then smoke your team.
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        I have the pleasure of having Busty on my server so will share logs so you can see what i mean...

        log1: both parties with supremacy on FQ

        http://s29.angel.gtarcade.com/sh ... Id=131556a99db38010

        log2: Busty gets supremacy I dont, i hit FQ 3x before she attacks.; she would have been dead otherwise and then mauls my team

        http://s29.angel.gtarcade.com/sh ... Id=131556a9aac95134

        Log 3:; Noone gets it

        http://s29.angel.gtarcade.com/sh ... Id=131556a9b14f0c4e

        Unfortunately no instances where busty didnt get it and i did.; so off to cross com...

        log 1: Supremacy lands for me

        http://s29.angel.gtarcade.com/sh ... Id=131556a9d10de632

        log 2: Supremacy doesnt land

        http://s29.angel.gtarcade.com/sh ... Id=131556a9d8524e89

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