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        i just lost all my gems to synthing them one buy one 14 out of 20 is not 75 percent wtf you scammers thats bullshit it was level 1 and 2 gems wtf scammers thats a lie more like we take everthing fromu and i not play this game scammers lires decit scam artist fucks
         14synth gems out of 20 is not 75 percent i want comp for that crap level 1 and 2 gems all gone the load of them you guys are decitful and wrong

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14 times out of 20 is not 75 percent lies decit scammers

        yeah it happens.. actually quite often 3-4 fails in a row.

        I pretty much hate RNG in games, give me straight numbers and I could handle them.  Never have any luck with RNG   

        *yes I hate traven too, take me longer than everyone else to get enough gems.
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                                      i just lost all my gems to synthing them one buy one 14 out of 20 is not 75 percent wtf you scammers thats bullshit it was level 1 and 2 gems wtf scammers thats a lie more like we take everthing fromu and i not play this game scammers lires decit scam artist fucks       
                         14synth gems out of 20 is not 75 percent i want comp for that crap level 1 and 2 gems all gone the load of them you guys are decitful and wrong       
       
    hailstormc5g@gmail.com posted on 2014-03-19 00:43:54     

um...the 75% chance in synth means......75 percent chance, it will synth.....25% it will not... and to make 100& it can synth...u use synth scrolls...
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14 times out of 20 is not 75 percent lies decit scammers

I often synth the gems one by one, cause it should succeed by 75% chance per synth, which might be higher compared to synth them all at one time.
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14 times out of 20 is not 75 percent lies decit scammers

                                      i just lost all my gems to synthing them one buy one 14 out of 20 is not 75 percent wtf you scammers thats bullshit it was level 1 and 2 gems wtf scammers thats a lie more like we take everthing fromu and i not play this game scammers lires decit scam artist fucks       
                         14synth gems out of 20 is not 75 percent i want comp for that crap level 1 and 2 gems all gone the load of them you guys are decitful and wrong       
       
    hailstormc5g@gmail.com posted on 2014-03-19 00:43:54     


        Or maybe you just have bad luck?It\'s 75% PER GEM, not for overall which means you might get lucky or might not. I sometimes had really bad % and something 95% synth rate. I doubt you came to complain when you had high % rate, did you?
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14 times out of 20 is not 75 percent lies decit scammers

        one instance of 14 fails in 20 is not a failure of the system, just the user.  perhaps you fail to grasp random numbers.

        It you would have got all 20 as success you wouldnt have posted this thread.

        If you understood some basic math you probably would not be throwing away your low level gems so readily.  gems are the constraint later on, not the gold or synth scrolls.
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14 times out of 20 is not 75 percent lies decit scammers

        Someone needs a lesson in binomial statistics.  Allow me to assist:

        Your success rate is 75% and you claim you did 20 trials. There is a roughly 17% chance that you will have exactly 14 successes out of 20 trials.

        The basic formula for a binomial in this situation is:

        nCr * (.75^r) * (.25^(n-r)) where n is your total observations and r is a given rate of success.

        Thus, all possible combinations of success outcomes multiplied by the individual rates of success and failure.

        Basically, what you experienced is well within the bounds of what we\'d statistically expect to see.
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        Reply 6# mesaana

LOL nice, I learned something today!
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                                      Reply 6# mesaana

LOL nice, I learned something today!       
    allyolding@gmail.com posted on 2014-03-19 12:05:14     


        Cool!  Statistics are fun and always useful.

        People frequently make the mistake of simply projecting expected values as actual results.  Your general expectation is that you\'d have 15 successes out of 20 attempts.  However, you can only truly expect that with infinite attempts.

        Otherwise, you can expect a distribution of results from 0-20 successes.  If you are min/maxing, you need to find that worst case that you find minimally successful and then generate the individual probabilities from r = {minimum, x....,20).  You can use that cumulative probability to make a logical move.

        In the case of the OP, you can expect to get AT LEAST 14 successes out of 20 attempts about 78.6% of the time.
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14 times out of 20 is not 75 percent lies decit scammers

                                                                                    Reply 6# mesaana

LOL nice, I learned something today!               
    allyolding@gmail.com posted on 2014-03-19 12:05:14             

       
                        Cool!  Statistics are fun and always useful.       
       
                        People frequently make the mistake of simply projecting expected values as actual results.  Your general expectation is that you\'d have 15 successes out of 20 attempts.  However, you can only truly expect that with infinite attempts.        
       
                        Otherwise, you can expect a distribution of results from 0-20 successes.  If you are min/maxing, you need to find that worst case that you find minimally successful and then generate the individual probabilities from r = {minimum, x....,20).  You can use that cumulative probability to make a logical move.       
    mesaana posted on 2014-03-19 12:12:43     


        even without statistics people need to understand that it\'s not 75% combined, but 75% per gem which is a whole different thing. If people tried to synth 1 by 1, it would be a complete different story and also your luck that day can change things.
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