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Post time 2015-9-15 17:11:57 | Show all posts |Read mode
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        As it stands right now, Damage output is the king of all setups. With many of the higher tiered Heroes being all about Damage, its nearly impossible to mitigate enough incoming damage to make this a viable strategy.
        DEF Gems offer such a pitiful bonus they are rarely seen on Mains/Heroes - if at all - as ATK based Gems (including Hit/Crit) take precedence over anything else.
        In other games, I prefer to be able to soak up damage and whittle down enemies at a more controlled pace. In LoA though, there\'s very few ways to get DEF to an acceptable level and even fewer party setups that allow this kind of thing to be viable.
        What are some things we can do to make DEF Tanking a real thing?;We could straight up buff DEF/Block/Endurance gems and tweak the Base stats of Heroes but that is super cheesy. What other ways can we make DEF Tanking possible?
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Post time 2015-9-15 17:44:43 | Show all posts

Let's make DEF Tanking possible


        Isn\'t it already possible to soak up a fair bit of damage with DEF, Damage Reduction, and End/Block? At least in places like Spire where mobs mostly hit your front row?
       
Generally the problem in this game is that Tanking isn\'t really possible since you can\'t easily force someone to only hit your tank.

Thinking about my Divine Hunter for instance. He had HP-PDEF, HP-End, PDEF, HP, End, Block gems. Also 12.5% Damage reduction I think now due to skill. Another 7% from Stables. He gets DEF boost from my Oracle early in fights. Doesn\'t get DEF boost from his own skill though but thats due to position. He has 20-10 Elemetal and I think level 51 now. Think he can take a couple of hits mostly as of now. Kind of waiting for Heaven Hunter to be released. If he has DEF boost as 3rd skill (like Oracle) he\'ll be pretty tough really.


But since I can\'t force other players to hit him they\'ll just kill someone weaker instead. Oracle is the same more or less. Close to 500k PDEF before buffs and quite a bit of damage reduction.; Most fights last 7-10 turns maybe? I am not a top player by any means though and is stuck between 35-55 in Cross server Clash of Might normally.

I really have issues with top player on my server who has Blazing Hecate and Son of Odin in same party. Once damage reduction buffs gets going its not so easy to 1-shot heroes. I guess I need to build my striker with more PATK but still.

I don\'t have Snow Queen or Fire Queen though, or Silver Dragon Lord. I am using Valentina (not so good damage), Moonlight Warlord (strongest hitter), Oracle, Divine Hunter, and Ghost paladin (backup).
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Post time 2015-9-15 17:56:40 | Show all posts

Let's make DEF Tanking possible

It\'s possible now,in case you haven\'t notice,GTarcade have been boosting tanking capabilities a lot lately.
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Let's make DEF Tanking possible

        I\'m not specifically meaning in a PvE environment. If any of the Top Players decided to switch to pure DEF tanking they would nearly instantly be blapped by some of the people under them.
        This game doesn\'t favor stacking DEF and Alpha Striking your opponents. This is the problem. As I said in my OP, there is really very few ways to make this work, and when you do get it to a reasonable place, you have nearly no DPS to take down your enemy.
        One party combo of D.Valk/Hunter/SoO allows D.Valk to do some Damage but that\'s money (or lots and lots of months) that I\'m not willing to invest in because it takes 3 Heroes for just barley any damage going out.
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Let's make DEF Tanking possible

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        That\'s because the things you need is a lot more expensive than just go with high Agi,Atk,Hit and Crit,where everyone could get it with faster rate and relatively easier to achieve.
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Post time 2015-9-15 18:28:01 | Show all posts

Let's make DEF Tanking possible

Tank set up is not feesible due to 30 round limit on fights, simple it is not worth the time, plus makes for very boring fights.;
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Post time 2015-9-15 21:46:35 | Show all posts

Let's make DEF Tanking possible

        DEF Tanking is possible. BUT not everywhere. Every hero is built with a purpose, and they only fit that particular role.
        Now, we have talked about Astral Hunter (AS) here. AS\' skill boosts RAGE & DEF to the backrow of your party. Now, ofc it is not possible to soak the entire dmg, but you can absorb a fair amount to barely stay alive. DEF, END, DMG REDUCTION, L1 WEAPON, these will allow you to soak a fair bit of DMG and regain HP to stay alive. Combine AS with a nice Hecate and boost his survival.
        Now, please don\'t misunderstand but Tanking is only delaying death. If you have 2 Heroes tanking, then you need to make sure that the your main & the other 2 Heroes deal with your opponents fast. If you fail to do so then you will die.
        And BTW, you don\'t need money to build heroes but a fair amount of patience & luck. Apart from SoO and Valkyrie, there are quite a few heroes that can tank. You just need to think out of the box.
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