Nian Auto Clicker Punishment?

stuart mcleod

        So are the people who use auto clickers being punished for using 3rd party software to click for them? or is this just going to be ignored and shunned to the side? Qouting the ToS. And before people say Hur dur how can you track an auto clicker hur dur dur. Packets
        No disruptive use
        Cheat, or use, launch, develop, or distribute any spider, “bot,” “macro,” or other “cheat utility” software program or applications which are designed to cheat, hack, crack, interfere with, disrupt, or modify the intended operation and experience of the Services;

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stuart mcleod

Official Response. Bump

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deth

Third party software that is against the ToS in this and any game is software that intercepts packets and alters them, an auto clicker does not fall under this category, nor do gaming KB\'s and mice.

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stuart mcleod

        An auto clicking device that can click at 0.01MS counts as a device that helps give an unfair advantage whether you like it or not.;

        And as for packet editing you have no idea what you are talking about. Clicking AUTO JOIN sends a request to the server. Ask yourself how a request is sent. If requests are being sent at a rate of 0.01MS and lets say 1.00 from a genuine user who do you think will be first? common sense prevails here im afraid.

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deth

You know you yourself can also just run it as a program, some mice come with that option stock as well, anyways, as said, it is not against the ToS.

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stuart mcleod

It wouldn\'t be an issue if the devs added a 10sec grace period on each Nian fight then the so called legit clicking wouldn\'t be a problem. But w.e if using 3rd party programs is allowed well certainly the first company i have seen allowing it.

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deth

          ;;;;                        An auto clicking device that can click at 0.01MS counts as a device that helps give an unfair advantage whether you like it or not.;       
       
                        And as for packet editing you have no idea what you are talking about. Clicking AUTO JOIN sends a request to the server. Ask yourself how a request is sent. If requests are being sent at a rate of 0.01MS and lets say 1.00 from a genuine user who do you think will be first? common sense prevails here im afraid.       
;;; stuart mcleod posted on 2015-02-18 18:01:26;;;;

        I said packet intercept, the way third party software that is considered cheating works is the packets that run between your client and the server are intercepted and the direct chain is broken, in no way does a auto clicker do this, I can ask the rest of the mod\'s and GM\'s to come in and explain it and say the same thing if you so desire.

        Something like this being said I would expect in a more hardcore/grindcore game, but somewhat surprised the subject is broached here, as it usually over gaming keyboards and mice, and btw, in those games and even with those devices the answer is also the same.

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stuart mcleod

          ;;;;                          ;;;;                                        An auto clicking device that can click at 0.01MS counts as a device that helps give an unfair advantage whether you like it or not.;               
               
                                        And as for packet editing you have no idea what you are talking about. Clicking AUTO JOIN sends a request to the server. Ask yourself how a request is sent. If requests are being sent at a rate of 0.01MS and lets say 1.00 from a genuine user who do you think will be first? common sense prevails here im afraid.               
;;; stuart mcleod posted on 2015-02-18 18:01:26;;;;        
       
                        I said packet intercept, the way third party software that is considered cheating works is the packets that run between your client and the server are intercepted and the direct chain is broken, in no way does a auto clicker do this, I can ask the rest of the mod\'s and GM\'s to come in and explain it and say the same thing if you so desire.       
       
                        Something like this being said I would expect in a more hardcore/grindcore game, but somewhat surprised the subject is broached here, as it usually over gaming keyboards and mice, and btw, in those games and even with those devices the answer is also the same.       
;;; deth posted on 2015-02-18 18:12:52;;;;

        What on earth are you talking about? who said anything about editing the packets lmfao. CLICKING for a SERVER response is TRACEABLE VIA PACKETS slams face off the keyboard IF you click the freekin auto join YOU ARE SENDING A PACKET DATA to the server. If you are sending 100 packets of consistent data to a server i would consider that FLOODING im a freekin IT technician and you are trying to tell me how a packet works fml lmao. IT really is simple for an event like this one people using AUTO clickers are destroying the event. Why do you think rooms get locked? because people are sending FAR too many auto join attempts and locking rooms out as the leader. I know what im talking about i run my own server. Now stop with this frivolous rubbish either link jelly the thread or stop posting on it. Thanks

        Oh and one last thing, just to clear this up
                        No disruptive use                                Cheat,                                
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•                                                                                                                         1.                                       
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                                                  [color=#878787 !important]                                                        she always cheats at cards                                               
                                         
                                 
  
                 

                                Another controversial use of auto clickers is for cheating in games. High-speed clicking may be required in some games to complete certain objectives or quests. Some games attempt to patch their games against known auto clickers, preventing the games from running when auto clickers are detected, but auto clickers can similarly be patched against the game patch.                               
                                And im really done trying to make you understand the ethics of what the word CHEAT means.       

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bart revell

i just push the mouse button lots. now and then i get lucky

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smokey u-11

nice subject here..
first off Stuart, u requested an official response, Deth is an AM, and
appointed as such by Jelly, thus his response is official. Some people
may disagree with the response, but it\'s the response you will receive
from any official appointed moderator (including Jelly)

second my opinion.

The game itself has a built in anti-flooding code which results in the
error try again later messages.
If u were to use an auto clicker set at 0.01ms u\'ll see that message
alot.
i can manually click just as many legit clicks as the autoclickers get
legit clicks.
The only advantage autoclickers have is that they have dont rely on
reflexes and muscles.

In case u think i as gm-supervisor am not official enough to supply u
with a response, please PM Jelly and file a complaint about me and my
responses.

regards,
Smokey.

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